Geforce GTX 770 vs Radeon R9 290

[markjudith]

Yet another hardware question
Just wondering which of the two cards may have the edge for running TS2014 in our Train Sim hardware experts eyes?

Mark

[smarty2]

Sits on fence with a bucket of popcorn.

[rfletcher72]

Sits on fence with a bucket of popcorn.

Don't forget the hot dogs and Coke Martin .

I would go for the GTX myself. If you 'google' either of the cards, there are some very helpful sites that provide benchmark scores for all cards currently available.

Cheers,

[firetrap1]

FYI - TS2014 is more CPU intensive than graphics intensive. I upgraded from a MSI GTX560N to a ASUS GTX770 OC and noticed no better performance in this game. With other games however, I did notice a huge difference in quality and performance.

It has been said that TS2014 (and all pervious versions) runs better on NVidia based cards.

[220389]

Yet another hardware question
Just wondering which of the two cards may have the edge for running TS2014 in our Train Sim hardware experts eyes?

Mark

What other games do you play?

It seems to be very CPU biased as Firetrap has said. Also it does seem to run better on Nvidia cards as well. Although performance on the R9 290 model might be a lot better in TS.

Chris

[gptech]

On my way to get Martin more popcorn I stumbled across this recent thread:
http://forums.uktrainsim.com/viewtopic. ... 1&t=135794
might be of interest.

[markjudith]

Thanks folks,
Yeah I have been looking at the various comparison threads and there doesn't seem to be much between them depending on which side of the fence you look from it seems!
That is why I ask the question, what would you folks think is the best bet for TS2014, No other games would be used.

Mark

[smarty2]

[gptech]

Thanks folks,
Yeah I have been looking at the various comparison threads and there doesn't seem to be much between them depending on which side of the fence you look from it seems!
That is why I ask the question, what would you folks think is the best bet for TS2014, No other games would be used.

Mark

Neither...both are great cards but the power they offer isn't used by TS2014. Whilst we know RSC have plans to use a better game engine that will be some time before we see it, by which time both these cards will be 'old hat'.
If you're looking to improve your graphics capability right now because you have weak hardware already, then a 650Ti Boost (£150 or so) would be a cost effective solution. (AMD eqivalent would be the R9 270)
Personally I'd go nVidia, there seems to be less reported issues from nVidia users than AMD users.
What is your existing GPU?

[220389]

Thanks folks,
Yeah I have been looking at the various comparison threads and there doesn't seem to be much between them depending on which side of the fence you look from it seems!
That is why I ask the question, what would you folks think is the best bet for TS2014, No other games would be used.

Mark

Neither...both are great cards but the power they offer isn't used by TS2014. Whilst we know RSC have plans to use a better game engine that will be some time before we see it, by which time both these cards will be 'old hat'.
If you're looking to improve your graphics capability right now because you have weak hardware already, then a 650Ti Boost (£150 or so) would be a cost effective solution. (AMD eqivalent would be the R9 270)
Personally I'd go nVidia, there seems to be less reported issues from nVidia users than AMD users.
What is your existing GPU?

Got to agree with that really. Also although a big AMD fan/ supporter i would have to echo for now the recommendation of the Nvidia card, as the game seems to prefer them more so overall. I haven't seen any feed back if the R9 series is any better for DX9 based games, as the HD78xx series seemed to suffer a lot on some (Get that myself on some titles)

[malatzoc]

The radeon is bad in dx9 is just a legend, no proof for it. I use a lot of dx9 games on radeon, and no problems, actually it's usually much faster than i expect as i have a quite old hd 5770.
I would choose R9 290: better in GPGPU, more advanced architecture, Mantle support, GCN architecture (same as in PS4 and Xbox one, so cross platform games may be more optimized to radeons), cheaper... as Nvidia always selling overpriced vga-s.

[mjoliver1]

Thanks folks,
Yeah I have been looking at the various comparison threads and there doesn't seem to be much between them depending on which side of the fence you look from it seems!
That is why I ask the question, what would you folks think is the best bet for TS2014, No other games would be used.

Mark

Neither...both are great cards but the power they offer isn't used by TS2014. Whilst we know RSC have plans to use a better game engine that will be some time before we see it, by which time both these cards will be 'old hat'.
If you're looking to improve your graphics capability right now because you have weak hardware already, then a 650Ti Boost (£150 or so) would be a cost effective solution. (AMD eqivalent would be the R9 270)
Personally I'd go nVidia, there seems to be less reported issues from nVidia users than AMD users.
What is your existing GPU?

Got to agree with that really. Also although a big AMD fan/ supporter i would have to echo for now the recommendation of the Nvidia card, as the game seems to prefer them more so overall. I haven't seen any feed back if the R9 series is any better for DX9 based games, as the HD78xx series seemed to suffer a lot on some (Get that myself on some titles)

Have to agree too. My HD7950 is more that adequate for almost everything available today - but, as always (and discussed time and again), the RS/RW/TS evolution has not overcome the clanky old game engine - and runs the game at the lower end of my card's capacity. My advice: save your money unless you have other games/software that can better use a powerful, more modern card.


Mike

[sundog]

Just to throw in my experience here..... I have a GTX770. I upgraded from a lowly Dell laptop to a desktop back last June. My experience Is based solely on my usage of this card as I haven't seen/heard anything about the AMD card for comparison.

I found of course it was a quantum leap from what I had before, but I can tell you the 770's been set to max on just about everything and the frame rate has never dropped below approx 25. It usually sits around the mid 40s upwards, and has been at times in the 70s. I'm at work right now so I can give specific details regarding settings.

I know it's an expensive card, I've no doubt there are other cards that can offer perhaps an equal performance, and I'm certainly no expert, but I thought I'd drop this in as I'm an actual "user", and I'm a very happy bunny with what I'm seeing

Ken

[markjudith]

Thankyou for all the replies I'm thinking of getting a new system myself, a friend of mine has been asking about getting a new PC and it's got my head wobbling now!
My current system is knocking on a bit now and I have to run with some settings turned down.

N Vidia 8800 GTS 512
Intel (R) Core (TM) 2 Quad CPU 6600 @240GHZ
4GB RAM
64bit OS

Mark

[rfletcher72]

Hi Mark,

I would recommend these guys:

http://www.component-warehouse.co.uk/spherepc

I got a new desktop that runs TS2014 well (and the 'blood and guts' stuff my son likes) for little over £500.

You can chop and change to suit your needs/pocket and if you need help/advice, just give them a bell. They are on ebay too .

Hope this helps,

Richard