North East Rails - Pb with scenario Backworth system

[JLD95]

Hi,
I downloaded this great route and I finished six scenarios.

But with the scenario named "Backworth System", I have a SPAD and not persmission is given.

AI trains named Service2 and Service7 have green signal but don't move any more.

[holzroller]

Hi,
I downloaded this great route and I finished six scenarios.

But with the scenario named "Backworth System", I have a SPAD and not persmission is given.

AI trains named Service2 and Service7 have green signal but don't move any more.

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The two lines after the crossing are not bi-directional, you need to set the points for the left hand line as if it were a normal mainline (looking from your loco), then the signals work correctly.

[JLD95]

OK, thanks, I saw the blue line without paying attention to the flow direction.

[JLD95]

Hi,

I finished this scenario but I make this remark: couplings with FP Jinty are very tricky and loco rear is missing on Cab View: is there a fix for FP Jinty ?

Finally, I swapped with Steam Jinty, couplings are more smooth.

[Trev123]

Yes I have the same problem with the Jinty.

[whittaker]

Hello
we used the Jinty for the Backworth system so we could keep the stock in the freeware packs ,here is a couple of images which could give you a bit food for thought if your thinking of swapping it out.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/36891793@N08/8978763241/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/60790501@N04/5706748623/

Joe Whittaker

[chrisonline]

Unfortunately, all versions of that asset have the same problem. There is also a Default (clean) version, and another variant came with the loco pack for the Great Central railway recently, and they all have the same issue - no cab if you are on the footplate looking backwards. In fact if the loco is attached to a wagon or carriage, you are actually inside it when you look back!

Not sure if the developer is around this forum or is aware. Maybe it's a simple fix?

Chris

[GavNormandale]

is it possible to change the cab used for a loco, i've thought of trying with the class 47, the default brake handle is unusable with the mouse, but the cab with the WSR 47 works fine. with the jinty it looks like they have referenced a tendered loco for the cab, if it referenced a tank loco's cab then would be fine.

just not sure how to go about it

cheers

Gav

[749006]

is it possible to change the cab used for a loco, i've thought of trying with the class 47, the default brake handle is unusable with the mouse, but the cab with the WSR 47 works fine. with the jinty it looks like they have referenced a tendered loco for the cab, if it referenced a tank loco's cab then would be fine.

just not sure how to go about it

cheers

Gav

You cannot change the 'Cab' you have to change the entire loco.
The only proper way is to use RW Tools and Swap the locos.
If you just remove the loco and replace it with another you lose the instructions that go with the train.

If you are having trouble with the mouse have you tried the keyboard?
Use the ['] to apply and the [;] key to release the brakes - just give it a slight tap when applying the brakes and look at the readings.

Post back if you need some more help.

Peter

[GavNormandale]

Hi thanks for the reply, I am aware of the keyboard, I just like to use the mouse when driving and always liked the 47 for that reason, everything in easy reach.

It would be good if we could just swap the cab out though, would solve the issue with the Jinty mentioned. As the cabs are not part of the original mesh I'd have thought it would have been possible to reference a different cab in the BIN file.

cheers,

Gav

[gptech]

The cab, when driving from it, is a separate model Peter so it should be possible to swap them over. You could edit the .bin file to point to the location of the WSR cab view but that would probably mean that every scenario that used the class 47 would need an extra Provider/Product box ticking.
If the files in the WSR cab are named the same as the default then simply replacing the old files with the new might work. The DRM might kick in here though and mess up the view through the windscreen!
The only way to find out is to try it I guess.

[GavNormandale]

The cab, when driving from it, is a separate model Peter so it should be possible to swap them over. You could edit the .bin file to point to the location of the WSR cab view but that would probably mean that every scenario that used the class 47 would need an extra Provider/Product box ticking.
If the files in the WSR cab are named the same as the default then simply replacing the old files with the new might work. The DRM might kick in here though and mess up the view through the windscreen!
The only way to find out is to try it I guess.

Tried it a few different ways, even tried renaming the default 47 cab view folder and replacing with the WSR equivalent, then changed the paths to files within the BIN files and always the same result, all fine till entering the cab then weird things happen for a second then the game crashes.

Looks like I will have to swap out all the player driving 47's with RWTools, livery will be wrong a lot of the time but I can live with that as long as the performance of the two Loco's is the same.

cheers

Gav

EDIT:Seems RWTools can't see inside of the WSDiesels Folder, cant swap this out anyways!

[gptech]

WSR folders will be in .ap format----RW Tools can extract the contents so you can work with them.

[GavNormandale]

WSR folders will be in .ap format----RW Tools can extract the contents so you can work with them.

thanks, sorted

[gptech]

Tried it a few different ways, even tried renaming the default 47 cab view folder and replacing with the WSR equivalent, then changed the paths to files within the BIN files and always the same result, all fine till entering the cab then weird things happen for a second then the game crashes.

The alternative is to try turning the original suggestion on it's head...instead of trying to add the WSR cab view to the older class 47's, see if the WSR version will play nicely with the older textures applied.