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Hmm, Intercity Swallow class 90 and DVT from Waggonz....wich one was included at AP pack, Swallow one?

Makeone wrote:Hmm, Intercity Swallow class 90 and DVT from Waggonz....wich one was included at AP pack, Swallow one?

It has IC mainline and IC swallow.

firetrap1 wrote:Lots of time seems to have gone into making the detailing exactly right.

As always, looks like another fantastic route, thought WCML north was great but then WLOS was even better, i am not normally a fan of single line routes as i like to see passing traffic but the route west of Castle Douglas just looks amasing, i find this part, the best part of the route even though it is single line. Looking forward to adding Preston to Carlisle to my collection. Thanks Keith for such a great looking route.

Merlin75 wrote:

Makeone wrote:Hmm, Intercity Swallow class 90 and DVT from Waggonz....wich one was included at AP pack, Swallow one?

It has IC mainline and IC swallow.

Could be a class 87 in a different livery : Blue , IC Mainline or Swallow , None of these have been produced yet ?
Also don't forget the 92 that's been seen on their Facebook page .

Euston to Rugby (At least) including the DC lines , St Albans branch and the Northampton loop would be nice for a future release , Most of the traction from the current or BR era is available or soon to be (an 81 or 85 would be the icing on the cake) .

Now if I was RSC I'd do the WCML Euston to Rugby including a 350 Conversion , Produce a 378 as a separate add-on and then utilise the 378 along with the already modelled area's of Stratford , Kings x + St Pancras , Willesden and Clapham junction to produce the North London line at a latter date

To connect to the Great Eastern at Stratford so you can do a Felixstowe to Nuneaton freight run. Absolute...dream land

skoda wrote:

Merlin75 wrote:

Makeone wrote:Hmm, Intercity Swallow class 90 and DVT from Waggonz....wich one was included at AP pack, Swallow one?

It has IC mainline and IC swallow.

Could be a class 87 in a different livery : Blue , IC Mainline or Swallow , None of these have been produced yet ?
Also don't forget the 92 that's been seen on their Facebook page .

Euston to Rugby (At least) including the DC lines , St Albans branch and the Northampton loop would be nice for a future release , Most of the traction from the current or BR era is available or soon to be (an 81 or 85 would be the icing on the cake) .

Now if I was RSC I'd do the WCML Euston to Rugby including a 350 Conversion , Produce a 378 as a separate add-on and then utilise the 378 along with the already modelled area's of Stratford , Kings x + St Pancras , Willesden and Clapham junction to produce the North London line at a latter date

skoda wrote:

Merlin75 wrote:

Makeone wrote:Hmm, Intercity Swallow class 90 and DVT from Waggonz....wich one was included at AP pack, Swallow one?

It has IC mainline and IC swallow.

Could be a class 87 in a different livery : Blue , IC Mainline or Swallow , None of these have been produced yet ?
Also don't forget the 92 that's been seen on their Facebook page .

Euston to Rugby (At least) including the DC lines , St Albans branch and the Northampton loop would be nice for a future release , Most of the traction from the current or BR era is available or soon to be (an 81 or 85 would be the icing on the cake) .

Now if I was RSC I'd do the WCML Euston to Rugby including a 350 Conversion , Produce a 378 as a separate add-on and then utilise the 378 along with the already modelled area's of Stratford , Kings x + St Pancras , Willesden and Clapham junction to produce the North London line at a latter date

Plus the West London Line could be created, and then I could recreate the current Southern South Croydon/Selhurst/Clapham Junction services to Milton Keynes Central via the WLL...plus the loco-hauled Brighton cross country services back in BR days, oh, and Rugby - Gatwick Airport services operated with Connex South Central 319s...

I've a bone to pick with Keith Ross: This will be third unmissable route of his featuring Carlisle. And as the last two both appear to depict my Mother in laws house I can only assume that this one will too. And that is a very depressing thought!!

John A

Tricky.

Up to date / recent would appear to be difficult unless the Virgin branding issue has been sorted...

Blue or IC...?

skoda wrote:Euston to Rugby (At least) including the DC lines , St Albans branch and the Northampton loop would be nice for a future release , Most of the traction from the current or BR era is available or soon to be (an 81 or 85 would be the icing on the cake) .

Now if I was RSC I'd do the WCML Euston to Rugby including a 350 Conversion , Produce a 378 as a separate add-on and then utilise the 378 along with the already modelled area's of Stratford , Kings x + St Pancras , Willesden and Clapham junction to produce the North London line at a latter date

Apart from not being able to connect all the bit together.
You won't be able to connect this new section from Preston to the existing WCML-N so Rugby-Euston to NNL and L2B + GEML is impossible.

I'll be a bit disappointed if this is anything other than current modern day with the EPS speed signs for pendolinos/super voyagers. Otherwise it won't really feel compatible with WCML North. Which would be a shame. The youtube clips seemed to give the impression of modern day - I really hope this proves to be the case!

K2rover wrote:I'll be a bit disappointed if this is anything other than current modern day with the EPS speed signs for pendolinos/super voyagers. Otherwise it won't really feel compatible with WCML North. Which would be a shame. The youtube clips seemed to give the impression of modern day - I really hope this proves to be the case!

Keith Ross has a YouTube channel and people have linked to videos on here as well. It is set in as modern a time as WCML-N so scenario chaining will be fine (except for the nitpickers with a lack of super elevation north of Carlisle).

Well, I do know that the line between Preston and Carlisle has a hell of a lot of tight curves, and running at End speeds has the Pendo's tilting to save their lives... I am so looking forward to this route, I seem to link this stretch more than Carlisle to Glasgow....

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ckmemphis wrote:Well, I do know that the line between Preston and Carlisle has a hell of a lot of tight curves, and running at End speeds has the Pendo's tilting to save their lives... I am so looking forward to this route, I seem to link this stretch more than Carlisle to Glasgow....

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Define tight curve

I am sure this will be an excellently built route, and I will most probably buy it, but it seems to lack the the operational interest that WCMLN has, just being a striat run from Preston to Carlisle. Will be good for a high speed thrash in a pendolino, but is there much other operating potential?

NickG wrote:I am sure this will be an excellently built route, and I will most probably buy it, but it seems to lack the the operational interest that WCMLN has, just being a striat run from Preston to Carlisle. Will be good for a high speed thrash in a pendolino, but is there much other operating potential?

According to Keith on Youtube, the route has about 30 miles of branchlines in addition to the 100 miles of mainline, so its not just a straight end-to-end run. There'll probably be plenty of opportunities for other types of working. Keith has also indicated that he's going to announce more details of the route and stock soon, so we'll probably find out about any branchlines in the near future.

Tom