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Its most certainly eagerly awaited by so many, personally the GEML is not a route i was too familiar with before it was released, but now i've had some experience working with it the 312 will just make it even better.
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[quote="GatwickSpotting"]It was mainly to highlight the window weathering, took me quite a long time and still needs tweaking..

All i can say is WOW Jordi, what an amazing piece of work by you both, well worth the wait.
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GatwickSpotting wrote:A link to the preview shot for those that don't use FB: http://i6.minus.com/iSrNjnrhWenBr.png
It was mainly to highlight the window weathering, took me quite a long time and still needs tweaking..
Are you sure that's not one of the Real pictures you took for doing the model :)

Amazing model - looking forward to it.

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GatwickSpotting wrote:A link to the preview shot for those that don't use FB: http://i6.minus.com/iSrNjnrhWenBr.png
It was mainly to highlight the window weathering, took me quite a long time and still needs tweaking..
Looks great. Please sir, could you make texture/window weathering tutorial for the rest of payware/freeware developers :D Making realistic wear&tear is one of the hardest part in texture making and is very easily overdone. Developers either do that or ignore it alltogether and make everything shine like clean plastic.
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SaMa1 wrote:Looks great. Please sir, could you make texture/window weathering tutorial for the rest of payware/freeware developers :D Making realistic wear&tear is one of the hardest part in texture making and is very easily overdone. Developers either do that or ignore it alltogether and make everything shine like clean plastic.
It's honestly not hugely difficult. The key is to find ways to build any effect you see, and reference reference reference and more reference. Look at real photos and break everything up into separate 'layers' in your mind. Like there's a bug splatter layer, a dust layer, a dried-rain dirt layer, a wiper swish 'path' layer, and then an internal dust layer. Apply logic to the weathering. Why is it there? Why is there more dirt on X bit than Y bit? How does dirt X affect Y? Hand-painted textures that look photoreal can only be achieved if you recreate whats happened to the surface. There's no simple overlay or texture you can just apply and it magically looks weathered. The other important thing is to make everything interact with the environment around it. The base of a horn lever will have collected dirt over the years as cleaning under it is too difficult/time consuming; the desk and horn lever can be 'joined' by this weathering.

While weathering and wear may look random, its always got some 'logic/cause' behind it. For example, hard edges such as the corner of a plastic box, will collect scratches on that edge, more than the flat surfaces of said box. This will cause the edges of the box to pale in colour.

With wear/weathering, its all about the thought process behind it, not so much the skills used to create it in photoshop.
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Re: Armstrong Powerhouse Class 321

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Hi All

Apologies in advance if there is a separate thread for the RSC 321, just seen some achievements for an FCC 321 but the GA ones seem to have dissapiered from list, anyone any ideas????
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He's right, you know. Look:
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I sense a change in plans...
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Does this mean the ECML and FCC 321 is likely to be out this week?
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Does the entire RSC office have ADHD? It seems they can't stick with one thing for more than 15 minutes. Even as recent as HS1 we got a new train bundled and another as DLC. Yet with the GEML it would appear RSC have managed to move on without even releasing their own bit of DLC (90 excepted)
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Re: Armstrong Powerhouse Class 321

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Maybe theyve decided as AP are doing the GA one to do an FCC one instead? not sure, maybe ECML with 365 will be offered as one price and a few quid extra with a 321 as well, really puzzled......
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leesussex wrote:Maybe theyve decided as AP are doing the GA one to do an FCC one instead? not sure, maybe ECML with 365 will be offered as one price and a few quid extra with a 321 as well, really puzzled......
AP (thank God) will do much more than just a GA one. That RSC was going to piecemeal their 321 was a given, so this should come as no surprise. They have most likely decided to do a route + stock bundle and will probably release ECML with the 365 and the FCC 321 as an add-on. Then they'll throw in Class 91 as the second bit of full-price DLC. They'll probably release the GA 321 for the GEML sometime thereafter. Thus both GEML and ECML will have two EMUs and one loco each.
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push2play wrote:
leesussex wrote:Maybe theyve decided as AP are doing the GA one to do an FCC one instead? not sure, maybe ECML with 365 will be offered as one price and a few quid extra with a 321 as well, really puzzled......
AP (thank God) will do much more than just a GA one. That RSC was going to piecemeal their 321 was a given, so this should come as no surprise. They have most likely decided to do a route + stock bundle and will probably release ECML with the 365 and the FCC 321 as an add-on. Then they'll throw in Class 91 as the second bit of full-price DLC. They'll probably release the GA 321 for the GEML sometime thereafter. Thus both GEML and ECML will have two EMUs and one loco each.
Do you have a link to this official statement by RS.com? Otherwise it is just speculation isn't it... :roll:
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Re: Armstrong Powerhouse Class 321

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thetrainfan wrote: Do you have a link to this official statement by RS.com? Otherwise it is just speculation isn't it... :roll:
It's an educated guess based on RSC's prior DLC strategy.
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Re: Armstrong Powerhouse Class 321

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thetrainfan wrote:
push2play wrote:
leesussex wrote:Maybe theyve decided as AP are doing the GA one to do an FCC one instead? not sure, maybe ECML with 365 will be offered as one price and a few quid extra with a 321 as well, really puzzled......
AP (thank God) will do much more than just a GA one. That RSC was going to piecemeal their 321 was a given, so this should come as no surprise. They have most likely decided to do a route + stock bundle and will probably release ECML with the 365 and the FCC 321 as an add-on. Then they'll throw in Class 91 as the second bit of full-price DLC. They'll probably release the GA 321 for the GEML sometime thereafter. Thus both GEML and ECML will have two EMUs and one loco each.
Do you have a link to this official statement by RS.com? Otherwise it is just speculation isn't it... :roll:
Just speculation at present

I am sure the AP one will superceed the RSC one in all ways, liveries, sound and realism.., I agree with what you say think they will go that way with ECML.
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Re: Armstrong Powerhouse Class 321

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push2play wrote:
leesussex wrote:Maybe theyve decided as AP are doing the GA one to do an FCC one instead? not sure, maybe ECML with 365 will be offered as one price and a few quid extra with a 321 as well, really puzzled......
AP (thank God) will do much more than just a GA one. That RSC was going to piecemeal their 321 was a given, so this should come as no surprise. They have most likely decided to do a route + stock bundle and will probably release ECML with the 365 and the FCC 321 as an add-on. Then they'll throw in Class 91 as the second bit of full-price DLC. They'll probably release the GA 321 for the GEML sometime thereafter. Thus both GEML and ECML will have two EMUs and one loco each.


If I was RSC, and I saw what I'd be up against with AP releasing a 321, I'd bundle mine with a route, effectively removing the competition. I'd much prefer to have the 365 as a standalone product, with no competitor out there. Just saying...
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