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RSC Deltic Prototype DP1
Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2013 2:45 pm
by FuSSionZ
Exactly what the title suggests..
https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/ ... 7324_n.jpg
Thoughts?
Might be a nice little addition

Looks impressive!
Thanks
Ross
Re: RSC Deltic Prototype DP1
Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2013 3:01 pm
by faedundee2
Not bad, interesting choice of loco though but can see it going well on the steam era routes... Wonder if the cab will be correct for DP1 though?
Re: RSC Deltic Prototype DP1
Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2013 3:45 pm
by jimmyshand
Cab and sounds will make or break this one. The old RS Deltic cab is, in my view at least, the most sorry looking cab in the sim. Urgently in need of a significant re-texturing and needs the nose visible through the front. Hope they are overhauling the cab as part of this prototype, if they do then it will be a 100% must have for me. I'd even use it as a sub in existing Deltic scenarios which I currently can't stomach to use due to the poor old fuzzy RSC default Deltic.
Re: RSC Deltic Prototype DP1
Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2013 4:28 pm
by styckx
jimmyshand wrote:Cab and sounds will make or break this one. The old RS Deltic cab is, in my view at least, the most sorry looking cab in the sim. Urgently in need of a significant re-texturing and needs the nose visible through the front. Hope they are overhauling the cab as part of this prototype, if they do then it will be a 100% must have for me. I'd even use it as a sub in existing Deltic scenarios which I currently can't stomach to use due to the poor old fuzzy RSC default Deltic.
I fixed the 55 cab up a while ago and its in Merlin75's uploads (gave him all my loot when I quit a while ago)..
But, not long ago I also fixed up the outside and included my 55 cab re-textures in it as one package (making my original package redundant)
http://uktrainsim.com/filelib-info.php? ... leid=30792
Full size..
http://i.imgur.com/kk2Z9hb.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/bFYdAWo.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ozgWq5B.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/jIZ5BhN.jpg
Re: RSC Deltic Prototype DP1
Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2013 4:52 pm
by ChrisBarnes
Overall looks very nice, and one that this kettle fan is looking forward to. That said, if I were the modeller, I'd have another look at the nose as it looks a bit square at the top I think. However, this is WIP, and as the final 87 cab exterior was quite a lot better than that shown in the first WIP pictures, I think we can hope that this will happen when the developers self-review their work.
Chris
Re: RSC Deltic Prototype DP1
Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2013 4:52 pm
by johnmckenzie
DP1 has a very different cab from the production machines - I doubt the default cab could be adapted for re-use in this model.
Re: RSC Deltic Prototype DP1
Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2013 5:01 pm
by faedundee2
johnmckenzie wrote:DP1 has a very different cab from the production machines - I doubt the default cab could be adapted for re-use in this model.
Indeed, and AFAIK the Mk1 Napier Deltic engines originally fitted to DP1 sounded different to the production Deltics too...
Re: RSC Deltic Prototype DP1
Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2013 5:10 pm
by deltic009
faedundee2 wrote:johnmckenzie wrote:DP1 has a very different cab from the production machines - I doubt the default cab could be adapted for re-use in this model.
Indeed, and AFAIK the Mk1 Napier Deltic engines originally fitted to DP1 sounded different to the production Deltics too...
And let's not forget it was a full 3ft 6in shorter, 66ft vs 69ft 6in I seem to recall. This and the AP Deltic sound pack would do fine, so long as they allow it to be faster, again going from recall, the prototype clocked 121mph - not far behind Mallard but not absolutely broken to pieces by doing it!
Re: RSC Deltic Prototype DP1
Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2013 5:17 pm
by faedundee2
deltic009 wrote:faedundee2 wrote:johnmckenzie wrote:DP1 has a very different cab from the production machines - I doubt the default cab could be adapted for re-use in this model.
Indeed, and AFAIK the Mk1 Napier Deltic engines originally fitted to DP1 sounded different to the production Deltics too...
And let's not forget it was a full 3ft 6in shorter, 66ft vs 69ft 6in I seem to recall. This and the AP Deltic sound pack would do fine, so long as they allow it to be faster, again going from recall, the prototype clocked 121mph - not far behind Mallard but not absolutely broken to pieces by doing it!
And DP1 is wider than a production Deltic, mainly due to the original footsteps fitted to the bogeys(there are stories of DP1 smashing platform edges along the ECML when it was first put out onto the mainline)... Here is a photo of the cab of DELTIC showing just how different from the production one it is
http://preserved-diesels.co.uk/2006a/dp1_1.htm
Re: RSC Deltic Prototype DP1
Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2013 6:15 pm
by johnmckenzie
To be honest I'd be very surprised if the D18-25 series I power unit sounded much different from the series II. Could be wrong though.
Re: RSC Deltic Prototype DP1
Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2013 6:23 pm
by winifred89
YES

Re: RSC Deltic Prototype DP1
Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2013 6:45 pm
by lenfish
johnmckenzie wrote:To be honest I'd be very surprised if the D18-25 series I power unit sounded much different from the series II. Could be wrong though.
From memory, it didn't!
faedundee2 wrote:there are stories of DP1 smashing platform edges along the ECML when it was first put out onto the mainline
One of the reasons the production models were curved under at the bottom edge. In particular there was insufficient clearance at the old Leeds Central station and the prototype Deltic had to be taken off at Doncaster when on Kings X to Leeds services.
Len
Re: RSC Deltic Prototype DP1
Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 3:01 pm
by FuSSionZ
New image:
https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/ ... 2355_o.jpg
A lot of people on Facebook are saying its too square.
Thoughts?
Thanks
Ross
Re: RSC Deltic Prototype DP1
Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 3:08 pm
by faedundee2
Re: RSC Deltic Prototype DP1
Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 3:28 pm
by deltic009
Looks spot on to me, if they had put the light a bit on the nose you would see the shape a lot better. As it is the shading makes it look flat.