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Whilst I'm no rivet counter, could someone who purchases post a screenshot to confirm that it is indeed shorter than the original Deltic model - there's no logical reason why it shouldn't be, but.......
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rkk01 wrote:Strange choice...?
Very weird choice of loco, can not see RSC making much out of this one though, I just love Deltics my favorite class of loco but this would not fit into my era of corporate blue, I can not see steam fans liking this much either as my experience of steam fans is similar to that of mine being against all the modern plastic rubbish, and the younger generation just dont know an era of when `real trains` ran on the mainline some will ask what is a Deltic? so sad, i got a similar comment of my friends 12 year old son regarding Concorde.
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I'd be more tempted to buy if it was a sort of "early prototype" pack and included something like the LMS D16/1 as well
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Rail_Class_D16/1.

Oh well I can wish! :wink:

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If I could pretend that this loco was preserved in working order I might just enjoy a run on the 2000 era Settle to Carlisle. But I don't think I can. Am wondering if it ever travelled Carlisle to Dumfries, that's a more prototypical route / era ( WLoS ). I also think 3 scenarios is on the lean side. £12 is only 4 pints of beer though. Or 36 cans in a supermarket !
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I'm watching an official release video and seems like nose is left out again in the cabview. Can anybody check it is the nose modelled for cabview or not? How's the cab functionality?
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ivorengine wrote:If I could pretend that this loco was preserved in working order I might just enjoy a run on the 2000 era Settle to Carlisle.
I wouldn't worry too much about suspending reality...

In the game we're all allowed to drive things that most of us would not be let within 5 miles of the cab door!
That and the fact we are also 'allowed' to exist years before we were born to drive these beasts - think of it as being given a chance of doing something that can never be done in reality.

Take it to a German or US route and show them our 1950's technology! :D
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The problem with that is if it was preserved in working order and running on the S&C there would be overhead warning stickers, higher intensity headlight and also a yellow warning panel of some description. I might just whip one up for a hypothetical jolly along the modern railways :lol:
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They didn't fix the cab profile then :(
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bristolian wrote:Morning everyone,

To me, the profile of the nose end looks too upright, whereas with the real thing, then ends are raked back slightly.
This loco just looks wrong...
I agree, and the nose itself (top from windscreen to headlamp) appears to be too long, perhaps because the front is too upright.
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black8 wrote:
bristolian wrote:Morning everyone,

To me, the profile of the nose end looks too upright, whereas with the real thing, then ends are raked back slightly.
This loco just looks wrong...
I agree, and the nose itself (top from windscreen to headlamp) appears to be too long, perhaps because the front is too upright.
It's yet another 'bodge' by folks with a view to a quick buck. On the strength of this, the buck stops here...
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I don't know what to make of this release. I'm hoping the video they've posted on YouTube was made before they started posting pics of the re-worked, improved model on Facebook as the model in the video appears to me to be a backwards step. I'll wait to see a non-RSC video of what they're shipping as a finished product.
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220389 wrote:
RichyV wrote:Be interesting to compare this model to the one included in the Bishop Auckland to Darlington route...
Isn't that one just a reskinned Class 55?

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Yes it is! This new release is much better than that and the cabview seems good to me.
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Hi, this is probably the worst model that RSC have ever created! it is very poor even by their low standards,its the wrong shape,for starters,the driving position is too low, in the rain,the only way to see the track ahead is to stick your head out the window! because the wipers dont wipe the tiny part of the screen you can see out of! RSC probably did this on purpose, to disguise the fact that they couldnt be bothered to put the bonnet in the cabview, the cabview itself,is plain awfull! but reflects RSC,s "quick job big buck ethos".
I would warn anybody to steer well clear of this,and save your money! i wish i had.
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Thanks for the warning Kev I'll heed your advice and steer well clear of this lemon.
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growler37 wrote:The driving position is too low, in the rain,the only way to see the track ahead is to stick your head out the window! Because the wipers dont wipe the tiny part of the screen you can see out of! RSC probably did this on purpose, to disguise the fact that they couldnt be bothered to put the bonnet in the cabview, the cabview itself,is plain awfull! but reflects RSC,s "quick job big buck ethos". I would warn anybody to steer well clear of this,and save your money! i wish i had. Regards Kev
So as much as I understand RSC just left bonnet out in cabview exactly like they did with American F7. Why don't I wonder? That's only one reason why drivers position is set so low. Another one is even more simple - if You set cabview where it should be the cab camera will cut into side walls and roof. In Deltic's cab windows location is very high so roof is very close to drivers head. One well-known 3rd party add-on maker released another Deltic where bonnet is modelled for cabview. But this model has another problems. I tried to set the cabview to right place but unfortunately without success because wipers working area is way too high. So seems that I'll never get high quality Deltic model. At least for RailWorks. I hope any 3rd party developer will make it because AP has produced fantastic sounset for this great English classic.
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