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Unable to create scenarios for Woodhead Route

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2013 1:08 pm
by theorganist
I decided that I would try and get back into scenario creation after a year or so of just playing default or add-on scenarios.

I successfully created a scenario for the RSC Settle to Carlisle route yesterday. Well it did not quite go as planned but it did work.

I decided that I wanted to create some for the Wonderful Woodhead route, as it is one of my favourites.

I went into the editor and put in a player train and two A1 trains, all at the Sheffield end. I then went to put in a light engine (the DT class 40) and I got a crash to desktop and a message saying something about a Vortex Buffer I think, I cannot remember exactly. The program had not closed just minimised so I clicked on it on the tool bar and got the dreaded something bad has happened. I tried going back in via edit scenario mode and drive a scenario mode and just get SBHH everytime.

I then tried to create another scenario at the Sheffield end and put in the player train, this time with the class 40, I clicked on play to see if it worked and got a SBHH again! Again I cannot now edit or play this scenario.

I can play any of the default or add-on scenarios for Woodhead so it is obviously not the route itself!

I wonder if it could be a graphics problem as I don't have the most powerful computer. I am going to try turning all the settings to minimum to see if that works. As I said I managed to create a scenario for the S and C and have created scenarios for other routes in the past!

I have recently re-installed Railworks so it just has the basic game and all my payware items, I have not yet got round to installing any freeware.

My specs are:

Pentium D 3.40 GHz
2GB Ram
NVidia G Force GTS450 1,024MB
It has onboard Sound

I can play the route with graphic details on 10 and most other items (shadows etc) on low or off without any problems and with decent framerates, around the 20-25 mark, sometimes dropping to 14-15 in high detail areas, which is fine for me.

I realise it is an ancient machine but is going to have to do until later in the year as I do not have the funds to upgrade as they are taken up by restoring an Austin Maxi, soon to be two!

If anyone has any suggestions they would be gratefully appreciated?

Thanks,
Peter

Re: Unable to create scenarios for Woodhead Route

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2013 1:15 pm
by Stanlow
Could it have been vertex buffer? That sounds very much like a graphics problem, looking at your system specs it may well be a case of it just running out of oomph. However, I don't know anywhere near enough about TS2013 and all of its little foibles, so it may well be something you're doing with the scenario editor that's wrong (forgive me if I'm presuming too much here!).

Re: Unable to create scenarios for Woodhead Route

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2013 1:25 pm
by rosgar
Looking at your specs you are at the lower end for the Woodhead line, so that will make it more difficult. To work around this it may work if you go to the 'scenery' folder, rename that to something like 'scenery.old', this should allow you to get into the editor without most of the scenery showing. That will reduce the load on your system. Don't forget to rename it back afterwards.
Is your DT 40 fully updated? An update patch was issued since the original release, with a different one via JT if you bought it from there.

Re: Unable to create scenarios for Woodhead Route

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2013 1:35 pm
by theorganist
Hi Rosgar,

Thankyou very much for that, I will try that suggestion this evening.

I don't think it is the latest thinking about it so will look into that. However I recall the last time I tried scenario creation, also on the Woodhead many months ago and had the same SBHH then, and that was prior to me purchasing the class 40 so I don't think it is the problem but I will ensure I get the latest version.

When I do finally manage to make some scenarios that work and I am happy with I intend to upload them, however I am terribly self critical especially as I can never seem to manage the wonderful complexity of some of the creations on this site!

Peter

Re: Unable to create scenarios for Woodhead Route

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2013 3:49 pm
by rosgar
Stick at it, it's really not as hard as you think! The more scenario writers on here the merrier. Plus any scenarios on here don't have the restriction of no 3rd party assets that Workshop has....
Just one other suggestion, sure you probably already do, but always clear your Blueprint (pak) files before attempting to write a scenario.

Re: Unable to create scenarios for Woodhead Route

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2013 4:51 pm
by theorganist
Stanlow wrote:Could it have been vertex buffer? That sounds very much like a graphics problem, looking at your system specs it may well be a case of it just running out of oomph. However, I don't know anywhere near enough about TS2013 and all of its little foibles, so it may well be something you're doing with the scenario editor that's wrong (forgive me if I'm presuming too much here!).
Sorry had missed your post. I think it was the vertex buffer. I am pretty sure it is my system.

Peter

Re: Unable to create scenarios for Woodhead Route

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2013 5:00 pm
by chrisy11
Make sure you have the Kuja/Railsimulator folder checked . i had probs with this on the newer routes like Woodhead,S&C and London to Brighton. it crashes alot of addon loco's if its not checked. And its not checked by default.

It was doing exactly what you mention until i checked the kuja folder.

Chris .

Re: Unable to create scenarios for Woodhead Route

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2013 5:22 pm
by Ximmy
Aye you need the kuju folder checked for a lot of stuff and if you dont put it on it will crash.
Bet its that

Re: Unable to create scenarios for Woodhead Route

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2013 7:15 pm
by theorganist
Thanks Chrissy11 and Ximmy I will check that out.

@Rosgar I will stick at it. I think scenarios are probably the only things I am likely to be able to contribute to the community and I would like to get more involved so will work on some over the coming weeks and upload some and see how they go down?!!

I do appreciate the scenarios that are on here, very much and those who create them.

Point taken regarding clearing the blueprints.

Peter