New computer, same problems

[rikwesson]

Hi, I have just bought a new computer which I thought would run TS2013 without any trouble. I now have the following

Intel Core i7 - 3770K CPU @3.50 GHz 4.40 GHz
8GB RAM
Nvidia GeForce GTX660Ti
250 GB SSD drive for Steam games only
Windows 7 ultimate 64-bit

Now don't get me wrong, all scenarios that come with Railworks load and as far as I can tell all that come with add on routes load and with very high frame rates. However, most scenarios that I have downloaded (Rosgar's and Mully's mainly), SBHH about 10 seconds into trying to load. According to RWTools I have all the stock. I did delete a lot of loose consists on Rosgar's Deltic for a DMU scenario and it did load but wouldn't save (screen went black and SBHH). Also, it now seems that every time I verify cache I am missing at least 1 file, and yesterday there were 229 missing! Why do files just disappear?

Question is, is my new computer still not up to the job of running big scenarios or could it be a problem with my Railworks files.

Any thoughts would be appreciated.

All the best, Richard

[chrisreb]

Have you reviewed the size of your Kuju folder? (there are numerous threads on this issue). You may need to try a clean Kuju folder and just add in what you need.

If there are too many assets/providers the game does a SBHH no matter what the PC specs.

[rosgar]

Have you reviewed the size of your Kuju folder? (there are numerous threads on this issue). You may need to try a clean Kuju folder and just add in what you need.

If there are too many assets/providers the game does a SBHH no matter what the PC specs.

Would agree completely with that. Unfortunately no matter what hardware we have, at the end of the day TS2013 is a native 32bit application with all of the associated potential pitfalls. Directory size here becomes critical for smooth operation.
Had a spate of SBHHs around 3 months ago, solved completely by removing the Kuju folder and validating. The old folder is kept elsewhere, individual assets can then be copied over as and when required. Saved nearly 4gb on the folder size too, but considering we still use Vista 32bit we now have very few problems.
Increasingly our scenarios use less and less custom assets (except for the listed Payware) for this specific reason, although some may feature a particular asset where suitable.
Good luck, nice sounding system there....

[jstange]

So what is the maximum size of the Kuju folder before problems start appearing? What is your size at the moment?

[bdy26]

We did a lot of testing on the Cambs route... Default is about 4.5 gig, mine was about 14 gig. A wobbled was thrown somewhere in the region of 10 but varied with systems.

The answer is probably to clone items for routes and replace but from a route builder's perspective it is utterly tedious.

B

[rikwesson]

Hi,thanks for the quick reply, I have just started to do that, but to be honest the thought of having to reload lots of stuff again is stressing me a little , still if it does the trick then it will be worth it.

All the best, Richard

[bdy26]

We did a lot of testing on the Cambs route... Default is about 4.5 gig, mine was about 14 gig. A wobbled was thrown somewhere in the region of 10 but varied with systems.

The answer is probably to clone items for routes and replace but from a route builder's perspective it is utterly tedious.

B

[bdy26]

We did a lot of testing on the Cambs route... Default is about 4.5 gig, mine was about 14 gig. A wobbled was thrown somewhere in the region of 10 but varied with systems.

The answer is probably to clone items for routes and replace but from a route builder's perspective it is utterly tedious.

B

[rosgar]

We did a lot of testing on the Cambs route... Default is about 4.5 gig, mine was about 14 gig. A wobbled was thrown somewhere in the region of 10 but varied with systems.
B

Our current size is slightly under 8gb, we started to have problems when it reached 11.4gb. So that would seem to agree with the point made above.
Curiously rarely seem to need any of the backups, so possibly most of the 'extras' are nearing being obsolete anyway. Some did go back as far as the EA Rail Simulator era!

[rikwesson]

Well, a quick update, and I'm now happy to report that I have just managed to load Whistler's last stand on SECML with no problems and Wow does it look good. So thanks to all for your help. One thing I have noticed is the Kuju folder is now at 7.13 GB so will have to keep an eye on that.

All the best, Richard.

[sandragl]

Check out the FAQs on Railworks America (http://railworksamerica.com/index.php/l ... ks-general). There are a couple of tutorials that help with these kind of problems.

[david1]

Just a quick question although i dont have a new computer, but is quite a reasonable one, would a high number of loose consists cause SBHH errors as i have been trying to get Powerless on Penistone to work, i know this is stated as needing a high spec machine, but i can get into editor mode but when i try to drive i get the Black screen of death, just thoughti would ask before i start deleting half of the loose consists in an effort to get it to work, i also have a large Kuju folder at 8.4GB but everthing else works with this.

[gptech]

would a high number of loose consists cause SBHH errors

They could do, even as static wagons in a yard they take up processing power. I'd suggest you clone the scenario and edit that rather than mess up a 'full' copy. Remove every other loose consist and give it a whirl. If that works clone the original again and remove every third loose consist...and so on. Eventually you'll find the sweet spot, or even discover it's all down to one particular consist or wagon.

[gptech]

Also, it now seems that every time I verify cache I am missing at least 1 file, and yesterday there were 229 missing! Why do files just disappear?

They probably don't...the messgae you'll see will say "....xxx files failed to verify, and will be re-acquired" or similar. Failed to verify doesn't always mean missing, or damaged; it could be due to your PC and Steams server not responding to each other quickly enough or the data packets getting 'lost'. In cases where a files integrity can't be verified Steam takes the belt and braces approach and grabs a new copy for you.

[Ajay1]

Well, a quick update, and I'm now happy to report that I have just managed to load Whistler's last stand on SECML with no problems and Wow does it look good. So thanks to all for your help. One thing I have noticed is the Kuju folder is now at 7.13 GB so will have to keep an eye on that.

All the best, Richard.

I to had problems when trying to load this scenario, resolved it by creating another Kuju folder(I now have three) with just the basic stock that is required only for the scenario. The question arises, I was wondering how others manage this ? With the ever increasing SBHH because of the folder becoming to large and having three or more Kuju folders with duplicated files in many of each .

Does one A: Have a ever increasing number of Kuju folders renamed within the Assets folder eg: Kuju , Kuju uk , Kuju usa etc and change the names when you need to use it ?
or B : Have separate Kuju folders stored outside of the Railworks Assets folder and copy each one in as required ? thus keeping the file size down.

What is the easiest?

Antony