Ideal computer for Trainsimulator 2013

[VernonDozier]

Thanks.
This one has been unlocked so I believe it can be overclocked too.

Unlikely, you need a 'K' suffixed CPU to higher the multiplier, and also a motherboard that supports that.

(http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1650/17/)

I see, thanks

Too bad the game doesn't have a benchmark utility. But since the OP got it working on an onboard video card meybe that opens up some options.

[theokus]

Thanks.
This one has been unlocked so I believe it can be overclocked too.

Unlikely, you need a 'K' suffixed CPU to higher the multiplier, and also a motherboard that supports that.

(http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1650/17/)

Right and I like to ad > at least a i5 3570 k
It's a 1155 type.

Recentely I build a new reserve-pc.
TS2013 runs nice on it

[gptech]

But since the OP got it working on an onboard video card meybe that opens up some options.

Nearly, but not quite---the CPU in bigstewarts new machine handles the graphics too, or at least it does if it's adhering to the specs we've seen. On chip graphics, particularly on the CPU's from AMD, have improved exponentionally over the past few years and can no longer be looked on as just 'onboard/integrated' graphics, they really are a match for entry level GPU's.

The A10-5700 and the i3 2120 are just about in the same performance bracket though, so you can expect similar results in the performance stakes; a GTX560 will enable you to run with higher detail levels, or at higher resolutions, though some may consider it a wee bit OTT for the CPU to keep up with.
Either way, the system you're looking at should perform well.

[VernonDozier]

Thanks for the info.
I'll keep looking.

[sargnickfury]

How much does CPU vs GPU matter for TS2013? I have really wondered about this myself, and wether a new GPU or a new CPU would offer a bigger boost.

My System:
Intel i3-2120
8GB G.SKILL DDR3 1600
Asus HD7850 (oc 1200 1.22v mem 5200)
Asus P8H67-M Evo rv 3.0,
OCZ 250 GB Vertex 4 SSD for Operating System
Games on old WD RE2 750GB 7200 RPM drive
(my reasoning is SSD will not really help games for storage, as everything needed loaded into memory or pagefile of ssd. But OS benefits quite a bit)

[gptech]

How much does CPU vs GPU matter for TS2013? I have really wondered about this myself, and wether a new GPU or a new CPU would offer a bigger boost.

My System:
Intel i3-2120
8GB G.SKILL DDR3 1600
Asus HD7850 (oc 1200 1.22v mem 5200)

It's generally accepted that the game is more CPU bound, in your case a more powerful CPU would seem to be the best way to go as the 7850 offers plenty of bandwidth. Of course it all depends on how you define 'boost', so what improvement are you looking for?
Given that you have a H67 motherboard overclocking is not possible, so your only options really are a standard i5 or i7; though whether it's cost effective to stay with the Sandy Bridge platform is debatable.

[VernonDozier]

FWIW, last time I played I was running a Q6600 OC'd to 3.8, 6GB ddr2 ram and a 9800GTX card. Worked well with shadows turned down some. So should the i3 + the 560ti enable me to max everything out?

[theokus]

FWIW, last time I played I was running a Q6600 OC'd to 3.8, 6GB ddr2 ram and a 9800GTX card. Worked well with shadows turned down some. So should the i3 + the 560ti enable me to max everything out?

If you let me

Kingston HyperX Genesis 4 GB DIMM DDR3-1600 (lifetime warranty).
Scythe Shuriken Rev. B
Intel Core i5 3570K
Gigabyte GA-Z77X-D3H
(457,85 euro)

And I have the 9800 GTX+
Is a card what I had in reserve. Idem for the case etc.

The the 560ti is a good card but I recommend an Asus which is quieter.
Have a look here:
http://www.hwcompare.com/8963/geforce-9 ... tx-560-ti/


It's the config of my new reserve-pc (My main-pc has more power).

[VernonDozier]

FWIW, last time I played I was running a Q6600 OC'd to 3.8, 6GB ddr2 ram and a 9800GTX card. Worked well with shadows turned down some. So should the i3 + the 560ti enable me to max everything out?

If you let me

Kingston HyperX Genesis 4 GB DIMM DDR3-1600 (lifetime warranty).
Scythe Shuriken Rev. B
Intel Core i5 3570K
Gigabyte GA-Z77X-D3H
(457,85 euro)

And I have the 9800 GTX+
Is a card what I had in reserve. Idem for the case etc.

The the 560ti is a good card but I recommend an Asus which is quieter.
Have a look here:
<span><a href="http://www.hwcompare.com/8963/geforce-9 ... tx-560-ti/" class="smarterwiki-linkify">http://www.hwcompare.com/8963/geforce-9 ... </a></span>


It's the config of my new reserve-pc (My main-pc has more power).

So you're saying the 560ti would be overkill?

[antonyperks]

I have 550Ti with i3 with 8GB and it runs the game fine, get good frames, and NO stutter.

[theokus]

So you're saying the 560ti would be overkill?

No no no
I do only know that the 9800 GTX+ (see the + sign) is good enough.

Do not forget what gptech said about the choice of cpu...
Rather think of a better cpu than investing in a new card.

But on the other hand: the cost of the 560Ti-card will not be an assault on your wallet

[sargnickfury]

It's generally accepted that the game is more CPU bound, in your case a more powerful CPU would seem to be the best way to go as the 7850 offers plenty of bandwidth. Of course it all depends on how you define 'boost', so what improvement are you looking for?
Given that you have a H67 motherboard overclocking is not possible, so your only options really are a standard i5 or i7; though whether it's cost effective to stay with the Sandy Bridge platform is debatable.

The P8H67-M gets no love... It really is an excellent little board, that has all the bells I need, and allowed me to spend more money on what mattered, a better GPU that overclocks easy!!!! my HD7850 is putting out HD7870 numbers stable oc at 1200. You are right though about mobo, it does some sort of turbo thing but it will not overclock... fair enough though 1155 cpus have gotten cheap, 3770 is on it's way This board does everything I need, and investing in a new mobo and cpu certainly is not going to net me the gain vs cost of just upgrading to 3770 I think. Not to mention new mobo means wipe and reinstall......yuck.

[gptech]

I'm not saying your motherboard's lacking, I use an H61 myself which provides all the features I need. My point was that upgrading what you have may not be cost effective; the cost not worth any gain.

Incidentally, a motherboard swap doesn't always mean a clean install of Windows----I'd recommend it though---as long as you don't move away from the original HAL, and even this can be changed after an install but in all honesty it's quicker and easier to start afresh.

[smarty2]

Anyone fancy clashing with one of these? http://www2.pcmag.com/media/images/3755 ... pg?thumb=y dribble drool!

[BadWhippet]

I think the right in-game settings does more for the game than ramping up hardware to be honest...

A year ago I upgraded to a decent system with SSD, quad i7 3820 @ 4.1Mhz, 3Gb nvidia 580, plenty of RAM etc - but to be honest game performance wasn't 'massively improved' over my old several-years-old dual-core clocked at 3.1Mhz. No stutters, but there is still that trade-off to be made between a low fps when chugging out of Paddington versus best rendering of distance, smoothing out jagged power lines etc. The top settings are still beyond my reach unless I stay away from built-up areas!

Reading this thread, it's clear people can achieve just as good without spending the earth on kit (which says much about the strides RSC has made since the game's beginnings).