Cambridgeshire Lines

[chrisreb]

Just tried again and got another SBHH 1.24 miles from the end. This is just after the river crossing. Cannot reload the save now nor edit the scenario.

However I can go into this area in edit with my own scenario. To me this indicates the issue for me at least is scenario and not route related.

[bdy26]

The provider / pairs issue applies to stock as well as scenery items. I expect you're getting SBHH when the game is loading up the provider / pair that breaks the camel's back. It may be that deleting consists located near that location may let it run.

B

[Iluka]

Hi Neil

You have a PM

Regards

Mike

[chrisreb]

The provider / pairs issue applies to stock as well as scenery items. I expect you're getting SBHH when the game is loading up the provider / pair that breaks the camel's back. It may be that deleting consists located near that location may let it run.

B

You are probably right. However as I cannot edit in that area nor tell from RW Tools which consists are in that area I will just leave that scenario alone.

Perhaps a run on the Penrith to keswick is in order!

[bdy26]

I think CKPR may have issues with this now. I will try to fix in v2.

B

[chrisreb]

I think CKPR may have issues with this now. I will try to fix in v2.

B

Oh dear - looking forward to this as keeping an eye on the blog.

If I get issues on a clean Kuju folder that is somewhat worrying. I can run large scenarios in a number of routes so not sure what the issue is here.

[bdy26]

Its fixable, but involves a lot of work manually editing files. Moving the goalposts like this (albeit unintentionally) really does make life hard for routebuilders.

B

[antonyperks]

Clemmo and Chrisreb

I have a theory (ahem , this is my theory and my theory alone, ahem) - that perhaps specific assets are triggering SBHH on 'older' installs with a lot of history. I guess that where you've created a new cut-down kuju folder and then added just the relevant assets (and got this to work) this has also had the effect of putting a single clean version of kuju's current defaults plus a single clean install over the top of it with UKTS-FP etc. My theory (railways are thin at one end, thick in the middle and thin at the other end) is that there has been a disconnect over time with specific assets - especially reskins of kuju assets - which has been subsequently corrected - so that a fresh kuju plus a fresh overlaid set of latest-version 3rd party assets works where an old (built over the years) version does not. In the case of the Engineer's train I wonder if the reskinned guards van is causing a problem on your older setup:
"Kuju\RailSimulator\RailVehicles\Freight\StandardVan\Standard_Van_Bauxite_03\Wagon\standard_van" - aka "FP StanVan Bxite 3 (BY)"

May be un hareng rouge - but its a thought. If you have the time to remove/replace the van with something else and retry then that would help.

Cheers
Neil

Umm i dont think its that Train Neil after further experimentation and removing the enginneer train i still get it in the same position! I must add this was tried on my clean install on spare Pc with just the routes assets loaded.

[Clemmo47]

If I try to change stock it still crashes and the scenario itself becomes impossible to reload after a SBHH.
I had to reinstall the route folder a couple times. I can get to just past Histon but nothing I try gets me any further.
What has changed to cause these problems? I was going to reiinstall CKPR but I'd better wait.
edit
Ah a Monty Python fan I see above.
Didn't see the above post at first. I'll try just swapping the guards van.

[chrisreb]

Let me know how you do - have swapped it out and will have to start the scenario again when i get chance to test the theory.

[Clemmo47]

No, nothing I try makes any difference and after saving any changes with RW Tools the scenario won't load at all now.
Nvm I had fun with the other ones and swapped a Black5 for the Robinson 04 which worked well.

[cunningn]

Folks

I've heard from another user that there may be a solid fix for this - if that's ok for me then I'll punt it round to some of you who've had the problem to see if it fixes it for you.

However at the moment - "this scenario is dead, passed-on and gone to meet it's maker" - though I suspect it would SBHH before it got to Him !

Cheers

Neil

[bdy26]

Interested to hear Neil.

The kuju folder size is definitely an issue. I think we may need Train Store for RW.

CKPR works fine for me but had 1 report of similar issues to this. Don't panic, there's things I can do in v2

B

[TransportSteve]

Well, I've installed the route and all the accompanying assets were nicely packed, I didn't have to search for a thing, so, well done on that score, I enjoyed reading the manual that you've put together, very professionally done, I must say, and it gives you a lot of information of the locality and regarding the types of freight trains that we can run on the route for the period you've created it for, so, personally, another well done from me being a freight train nutcase......
I had a little trip down from St Ives to Cambridge and it's typically Fenland country, a few trees dotted around, lots of dykes, plenty of grasses and I'm sure the waterways gave you a lot of hard work, the texturing, particularly on the lofts, is quite excellent, and overall it's a fabulous recreation of Cambridgeshire in the time period specified.
My only problem came when I arrived in Cambridge as my PC spluttered a bit, and after checking, it showed over 2030 assets on one tile, so, I'm unsure if anything can be done for the low-end laptop users in that region, a bit of asset pruning may be required for those whose machines might not be able to cope.
Anyway, Neil and Ruth, and everyone else involved, congratulations on a brilliant effort all round, I'll certainly pop a few screenies up when I've explored everywhere else on the current map, many thanks for offering this to us freely after such a long time in the making and we look forward to your endeavours with the layout completion in the future.

Cheerz. Transport Steve.

EDIT: I noticed in the UKTS library a couple of scenery items that have been uploaded, some British Army vehicles from the 1960's, that may not look too out of place within the military installations you have included, just a thought.......

[nike wass]

Hi All
Any body help, what is Histon TSSD?
Regards
Mike Wass