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TheTazman wrote:This seems to have happened in my case too. Its all working fine tho. I also had the Game Already Running message. I am sure someone will come up with a fix for that sooner or later.
antonyperks wrote:I never noticed My version updating, it seemed to do it all on its own, I only have one problem that of not beig able to verify the cache, i get the afformentioned game is still running message, which obiously it is as the button is now on the games tools menu! One other thing i should say is that since the last big update I hae not had one single crash the sim seems much more stable.
I guess your right there about an eventual fix! However, it is annoying to be told by support it is because you're running two versions, when you know you are not, and you should restart your PC which, of course, doesn't make a blind bit of difference.

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I renamed my Asset and Content folders to create a backup then did a 'Verify of Cache'
Once complete, I started RW ok but didn't get any conversion messages.

I have a 'appmanifest_4100.acf' file dated 25/1 ,the day I did the verify of cache, in my 'E:\Steam\SteamApps' folder. Does this mean mine is done?
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I just had a reply back from support saying I should check the 'Task Manager' and stop the Steam process from there?

My update went through very quickly as I have a couple of other Steam applications on my pc. As I stated before the game runs OK bar for the pesky clear cache issue.
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The reported *error* after clearing the cache is because the game and the Steam client don't seem to be communicating properly. Just click on 'OK' in the error mesasge box and re-start the game from the Steam Client, OK it's an extra mouse click and you'll lose 5 seconds of playing time after every 'clear cache' routine you perform, but that's life.

brunnie, it's Railworks.exe you need to be stopping, not the Steam client.
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Well, I'm a bit confused with some of the posts on this thread???
Having personally been offline for the last 2 weeks, I decided to update tonight, so, I logged into Steam, the first thing I saw was at the top of the Steam Client page asking me to verify, or, update, my e-mail address, which I did, I then went to the aforementioned email addy and waited for the message from Steam to arrive in my inbox, and verified the message, that took about 3 minutes, I then came out of my email and on my desktop had appeared a pop up box saying Game Content Conversion, Steam needs to convert the game content for Train Simulator 2013, blah blah blah blah, and then it went through the motions and converted all my content, then when it finishes you click on the box OK, and the usual pop up box appears saying your game will start in 55 minutes, or, whatever, the green bar moved across the screen and it finished, I then did a verify cache, which took over 2 hours, which I expected, no files were missing, I went offline on Steam, rebooted my system, then did a defrag and I'm safely into the game, albeit a few mind numbing hours after I started, but, completely straightforward, I can't understand all the questions asking how do I know when the game's been updated, or, how do I know if I've had the update, you sit and watch it happen after following the pop up boxes, do you need to verify your e-mail addresses before the Game Content Conversion pop up box appears, one wonders, however, I thought the whole process was boringly easy, but, my thumbs have twiddled themselves silly.... :D

EDIT: I've just gone into my Call of Duty 3 game through Steam and the same box appeared on my desktop saying Game Content Conversion, which took about 8/9 minutes to complete and I can get into that now with no problems, does it do that with all the other individual games folks have on their Steam Account, some have over 200 games downloaded, I'd hate to have to sit through every one of them to convert, it'd drive me batty...... :lol:

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I finally got my update today. Took about an hour and a half to complete,once finished it also installed two extra folders in the steamapps folder,namely:temp & downloading both empty at the moment. Supposedly to be used in future Steampipe updates ?

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TransportSteve wrote: I can't understand all the questions asking how do I know when the game's been updated, or, how do I know if I've had the update, you sit and watch it happen after following the pop up boxes
Cheerz. Transport Steve.
The point is Steve, there have been many different experiences - I can understand the questions - but my question (had I asked it) would have gone down a different route.

My installation refused to update (no need to verify my email - it went straight in) - told me I had insufficient room on my HD after half an hour (even though I had approximately 90 Gig of free space :o ). I eventually solved the problem after several attempts by updating to an external hard drive (connected through USB2) - this took 7 hours (left it running overnight - I got up early :) ).

Now the interesting thing is that I decided to fire up RW to make certain it was working ok on the external HD before transferring it across to the original location, but I am not going to be doing that now - the performance is stunning, even running through USB2. For the first time I am (apparently by default - I didn't touch the settings) running on full shadows and max draw distance - always had textures/objects etc on full. Heavens knows why, but I am happy....

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Ok so i clicked on the update to steam pipe prompt. left it to run, came back- admittedly after bad rain, to find that it had failed due to connection time out. I then go to TS2013 and find that according to steam it is no longer installed even though all the data is still there. It is requesting i redownload the wole program at 20023MB which to be honest I can not afford to do eitehr by time or by bandwidth. Any thougths? this may be the last straw with TS/RW for me

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Rob,
it sounds like your connection died before Steam could transfer the new files so as far as it's aware now you haven't the game installed as those files arena there to tell it otherwise.
Start the process of re-installing, as soon as you see the new .acf files appear stop the installation and simply verifying the game should tie up those loose ends.
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Why is it taking half an hour to download 1 new .acf file for some people and it took less than a second for me with no warning :-?
Those this has happened to get the error on clearing the Cache. Something is not right for some of us.
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Hi James

I very much doubt that it's the acf file that's taking the time, it's the verification that follows. One explanation could be that some people, rather than let Steam do its stuff, are attempting to play RS2013 whilst the process is ongoing. I just minimised it and got on with other PC stuff. Then, of course, there's the fact that everyone's PC configuration and specs are different to one degree or another - it may not be co-incidence that some people appear to be more prone to problems than others.

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The error when Steam tries to re-start the game has no detrimental effect on the 'clear cache' routine; yes, it's a tiny bit annoying but it isn't stopping anybody from from playing the game. As the update was for how Steam 'sees' and checks the game and that no changes to the game itself were included the onus is on Steam to investigate. Of course it may be that a change to the game is required to eliminate the stalling, but until then you can always clear the cache by setting *.pak as a search string when viewing the railways folder in Windows Explorer or by using a batch file confining the command. Alternatively you could just refrain from clearing the cache until it's resolved.
Either way, it is not a major problem.
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I am not sure if this is an issue related to the recent update to TS. When loading a Scenario there is a screenshot on the loading screen of the class 70 cab. When its loading the image is OK in the top half but the lower have of the image is corrupt. I am not sure if those images are stored locall or if they are called from a remote server.

Everything else seems fine though.

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Hi Folks

I have been following this thread, as at this time my connection to Steam has remained the same.

No account updates, no .acf files or TS2013 updates.

My steamapps folder still has all of the .ncf files, although two files have been updated on 31/01/13,
sourceinit.gcf
winui.gcf

In my main Steam folder the following files were also updated at the same time
GameOverlayRenderer,
debug,
GameOverlayUI.exe,
GameOverlayUI.exe.log.

I have restarted Steam & TS2013 a multitude of times since last Monday even gone into my account on steam & tried to update
the Steam client but it tells me Steam is up to date.

TS2013 is working OK but some on the features on Steam web page do not seem to be responding ie:
in properties, Update tab, the selection already showing is "Do Not automatically update" & it will not allow this to be changed to Auto.

All these changes may happen maybe I will have to be patient. :( :-?

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My Steam Download status is telling me that I require a TS update of 12.4GB which seems ridiculous as the game was fully updated as at 20 Jan. I haven't verified the cache for a while but surely that wouldn't need such a huge download? As it is I've had to pause the update at 1GB before it chews through the remainder of my bandwidth allowance, so if there really is another 11.4GB to go then it's going to be a while before I will be able to play the game again.
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