The Port Road- out soon

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Re: The Port Road- out soon

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crumplezone wrote:Talking from a kettle driver point of view in the simulator, the scope for 130miles of driving and having a non-electric Carlisle opens up alot to have alot of steam engines moving about especially with a busy steam era Carlisle, at this point we have nearly all the steamers which could be used on Port road and all the carriage stock is available now from various vendors to.

Hopefully quite a few scenarios will pop up after release with that theme in mind.
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I plan to use JT's Class 20 a good bit on the route. I'll be grabbing this route at full price. I expect it to be my favorite route, and I'm a Yank, with several nice US routes (mostly freeware) to run. The opportunities for freight operations on this route are fantastic, and I do hope scenario writers will pay some attention to the freight side of things. I've watched Keith's videos several times each and this route looks simply fantastic!
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I'm sure this line will be fantastic, but how much better could it be if it could be combined with WCML to enable the start of a REAL rail network.

Same with other "new" scenery, why oh why cant they "join" to existing
West Somerset - Bristol Exeter
Settle / C - WCML
ECML and Edinburgh - Glasgow

To name but a few.

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A double route would become more rescource hungry, thus straining many computers.

Settle and Carlisle and WCML would be the most realistic as it's both RSC published.
WSR and B2E are JT and Freeware
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johnrossetti wrote:I'm sure this line will be fantastic, but how much better could it be if it could be combined with WCML to enable the start of a REAL rail network.

Same with other "new" scenery, why oh why cant they "join" to existing
West Somerset - Bristol Exeter
Settle / C - WCML
ECML and Edinburgh - Glasgow

To name but a few.

Ho Hum - I can but dream
It would be fantastic, but WCML is a system killer 'as is' for most Railworks users, adding more tiles to something of that scale would make the game playable (usable) for maybe 1% of the userbase. Even the London - Brighton route "kills" systems when you try to create scenarios in certain areas of the map.

Also 2hrs is my maximum for scenario length, any more than that and, well.... So a large rail network would go unused for me.

Personally thinking, as long as we have the area(s) of interest covered by one, two or three routes then it's more enjoyable as you can create a scenario to finish at a major station, shutdown the game for a cuppa and come back on a 'fresh' part of the route refreshed and ready to go again. It also means that the AI isn't overly stressed trying to keep tabs on 100's of trains across the large network, it struggles as is once you hit 15+ trains in an area. :)
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Yes, we need Settle linked to the Woodhead etc
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pilot37 wrote:Yes, we need Settle linked to the Woodhead etc
Settle linked to Woodhead? Settle or Carlisle to Manchester would be a pretty big route just to connect them as it is. :)
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This topic has come up before, and in those other threads it has been well explained why these long routes we already have are about the limit of what can be done in TS2013, so nothing like what is being suggested will happen, I don't think.

However, I really like the idea stretching a series of scenarios across several routes, so that you leave off at one end of one of them, and pick up with the same loco and stock in the second route in a realistic and believable way. If I ever get off my keister and learn how to do scenarios, I may put my hand to such a series.
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Griphos wrote:This topic has come up before, and in those other threads it has been well explained why these long routes we already have are about the limit of what can be done in TS2013, so nothing like what is being suggested will happen, I don't think.

However, I really like the idea stretching a series of scenarios across several routes, so that you leave off at one end of one of them, and pick up with the same loco and stock in the second route in a realistic and believable way. If I ever get off my keister and learn how to do scenarios, I may put my hand to such a series.
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Stock WILL come with the route - confirmed by Keith via his YouTube comments.

I'm also pretty sure he knows what the stock is, and is currently writing scenarios for what-ever stock it is - he mentioned the scenarios will be fairly limited due to the stock he has to work with... but will try and release more advanced scenarios via Steam Workshop after the routes release.
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firstborn wrote:Stock WILL come with the route - confirmed by Keith via his YouTube comments.

I'm also pretty sure he knows what the stock is, and is currently writing scenarios for what-ever stock it is - he mentioned the scenarios will be fairly limited due to the stock he has to work with... but will try and release more advanced scenarios via Steam Workshop after the routes release.
I think the OP was dreaming of something new in the way of stock.

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Stock or no stock, this is gonna be one hell of a good route :)
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Carinthia wrote:
firstborn wrote:Stock WILL come with the route - confirmed by Keith via his YouTube comments.

I'm also pretty sure he knows what the stock is, and is currently writing scenarios for what-ever stock it is - he mentioned the scenarios will be fairly limited due to the stock he has to work with... but will try and release more advanced scenarios via Steam Workshop after the routes release.
I think the OP was dreaming of something new in the way of stock.

John
It was me who mentioned stock being included, and no "dreaming" was involved, as my second post on the subject clarifies
me wrote:RSCs recent policy has been a route / stock bundle. That applies to pretty much every route I can think of for the past couple of years, hence me posing the question. I bet it includes at least one item, even if it's a v2 class 37 with 1 reskin


Whilst you out of hand dismissed my suggestion that stock would be included :) Feel free to admit defeat on this matter ;)
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rgreenrail wrote:A double route would become more rescource hungry, thus straining many computers.

Settle and Carlisle and WCML would be the most realistic as it's both RSC published.
WSR and B2E are JT and Freeware
SECML and E2G are RSC and JT.
A suggestion of mine some time ago is not to physically "link routes together because it would melt ordinary computers, but...... to use the same assets at the routes through or terminating stations so one could simply load a new scenario in the adjoining route, wished they had done that with the PDL from Reading, and if they really wanted to be swanky about it you could have it load the next scenario automatically at the finish of the previous one with some nice vid of the station in question!
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firstborn wrote:Stock WILL come with the route - confirmed by Keith via his YouTube comments.

I'm also pretty sure he knows what the stock is, and is currently writing scenarios for what-ever stock it is - he mentioned the scenarios will be fairly limited due to the stock he has to work with... but will try and release more advanced scenarios via Steam Workshop after the routes release.
One might assume it may well be stock used in the European assets pack? Stuff pre 2013 had by default.
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