Robinson O4 2-8-0 coming soon

[crumplezone]

Looks like the included LNER V2 Has a new soundset

Sounds better than the original, by far

Yup, its the soundset Matt had done for the V2 in the S&C pack.

I'm going to make a clone of that Night freight scenario and change the coal wagons out with some of DT's UK wagons and some of the vans and associated 3, 5 and 7 planks I've got from various packs, the 4F pack's wagons are pretty good and can give you the alternative freight formations the O4s would pull.

One thing I've noticed however if you double head the O4s then 2nd one will not create vast plums of smoke from the funnel or any sounds which would normally only be reserved to a banker in railworks, but the O4 it seems to effect doubleheading formations, which is abit of a shame.

Besides that have really enjoyed some trips on Woodhead and hope to see some scenarios pop up for Woodhead utilising the O4s, I'm also somewhat more excited to see the B1 come out from RSC now after the O4, they will really start to fill out the early/late crest BR steam era on Woodhead and I know DT is planning to do maroon/cream custard gresley teaks at some point so the rolling stock will be fully featured for the B1 to.

I also have a urge to see a K3.

[kevpotts]

Ship =funnel
Locomotive=chimney!

[Bjmorley]

The patch RSC did for Woodhead some months back helped the frame-rates a lot and TS013's graphical enhancements may mean your computer will run it anyway. It's a wonderful piece of programming. My older system used to struggle but now it's not too bad.

Keith

I get 14fps on London to Brighton, I dont think Woodhead will be any better

[hertsbob]

Ship=funnel
Locomotive=chimney!

Is that right? I was only wondering about that this afternoon!

Thanks

Bob

[crumplezone]

Ship =funnel
Locomotive=chimney!

Since were being inane and nitpicky for the sake of it, read the bottom:

A funnel is a pipe with a wide, often conical mouth and a narrow stem. It is used to channel liquid or fine-grained substances into containers with a small opening. Without a funnel, spillage would occur.

Funnels are usually made of stainless steel, aluminium, glass, or plastic. The material used in its construction should be sturdy enough to withstand the weight of the substance being transferred, and it should not react with the substance. For this reason, stainless steel or glass are useful in transferring diesel, while plastic funnels are useful in the kitchen. Sometimes disposable paper funnels are used in cases where it would be difficult to adequately clean the funnel afterward (for example, in adding motor oil to a car). Dropper funnels, also called dropping funnels or tap funnels, have a tap to allow the controlled release of a liquid.

The term funnel is sometimes used to refer to the chimney or smokestack on a steam locomotive and usually used in referring to the same on a ship. There is also a type of spider known as a funnel-web due to its habit of building its web in the shape of a funnel. The term funnel is even applied to other seemingly strange objects like a smoking pipe or even a humble kitchen bin.

[Rockdoc2174]

One thing that made me smile was on the fireman's side-wall of the cab - a steam-heating pressure gauge! I wouldn't be surprised if the preserved one has steam heating but I would be very surprised if any of the O4s had that while they were in service. Presumably someone took photos of the preserved engine and the modellers copied what they saw in them. It's a ticky-tacky criticism, I know, but you could say if that's all there is available to be criticised RSC's modellers haven't done a bad job!

On a definitely negative tack: I don't know if this is a problem with the model or with TS013 but I cloned the Woodhead scenario that begins with three 8Fs - one train engine and two bankers - and replaced all the freight locos with O4s and all the passenger locos with V2s, using RW_Tools of course. All went well until I got a fail because the player's engine had run out of water. I was in auto-fireman mode, as usual, and I've never had that happen before. I remember that double-headed trains using the manual fireman didn't accept water in TS012 but has it now spread to all multiple-loco set ups in TS013?

Keith

[javierfl]

What about pivot of "Pony truck"?

Javier.-

[chrisreb]

Playing the second of the O2 scenarios and noticed some odd behaviour when coupling to the coal wagons.

In the intro scenario as I approached the wagons they set of toward me! In the next scenario as I backed up to them they set off away from me and i had to chase them down the siding to catch them! All a bit Thomas the Tank Engine with naughty wagons. Anyone else observed this?

[hertsbob]

Since were being inane and nitpicky for the sake of it

Ooh! Please can I play?

Cheers

Bob

[prairie4566]

Playing the second of the O2 scenarios and noticed some odd behaviour when coupling to the coal wagons.

In the intro scenario as I approached the wagons they set of toward me! In the next scenario as I backed up to them they set off away from me and i had to chase them down the siding to catch them! All a bit Thomas the Tank Engine with naughty wagons. Anyone else observed this?

Yes, but I managed.

So far finding it challenging stopping her though

[Dave4468]

Playing the second of the O2 scenarios and noticed some odd behaviour when coupling to the coal wagons.

In the intro scenario as I approached the wagons they set of toward me! In the next scenario as I backed up to them they set off away from me and i had to chase them down the siding to catch them! All a bit Thomas the Tank Engine with naughty wagons. Anyone else observed this?

Yea, I've noticed that too. At least on the intro scenario.

[sp762]

One thing that made me smile was on the fireman's side-wall of the cab - a steam-heating pressure gauge! I wouldn't be surprised if the preserved one has steam heating but I would be very surprised if any of the O4s had that while they were in service.

Well, since the LNER handled a bunch of Banana traffic, and banana vans are steam heated, it's not THAT unlikely... let's all go look for photos!

[firstborn]

Playing the second of the O2 scenarios and noticed some odd behaviour when coupling to the coal wagons.

In the intro scenario as I approached the wagons they set of toward me! In the next scenario as I backed up to them they set off away from me and i had to chase them down the siding to catch them! All a bit Thomas the Tank Engine with naughty wagons. Anyone else observed this?

Yea, I've noticed that too. At least on the intro scenario.

Yes, me too... very odd... feels like there is some sort of positive or negative magnetism going on

[crumplezone]

The wagon rolling thing has been around since Railworks 2, if a player train approaches stationary stock which is not on the level they will move with accordance with the gradient, its not really a bug of the O4 but something with the simulator which isn't really super high on the fix list since it doesn't particularly break the simulator persay.

I also believe the wagons in the scenarios are the unfitted type, especially the ones in the two scenarios mentioned so they would roll without being locked, unfortunately a brake van on the back and the simulator not automatically setting brakes to on when you place a consist down isn't especially helpful and would be something nice for RSC to add or automate in the future.

In real life on Woodhead the actual wagons would have been "pinned" so they wouldn't move and pinning was also used to retard the speed of unfitted trains on downhill gradients. You could probably create the same effect by going into the scenario editor and swapping out some of the unfitted for fitted wagons of the same type which are included with the O4 and manually toggle on the breaks via the UI to do that to control speed and improve stopping.

Braking wise, the O4 is pretty good, is just the fact in the provided the scenarios the train workload is pretty heavy and also is unfitted so braking distances need to be ramped up considerably, rather than just slam on 100% brakes and hope to hit the target. It seems to brake fine with MK1s fine so I pretty sure its down to the unfitted wagons and weight.

[levisham]

Last night I looked at the various Assets for each scenario with RWTools and I saw a consist of an O4 with a V2 tender. Now, if I swap this for the Robinson tender will Steam overwrite it each time I verify the games cache? Maybe I'll just leave it as it is........and hope that RSC sort it out

Regards, John.