Atomic Systems

Posted: **Sun Oct 21, 2012 7:26 am**

crumplezone wrote:The wagon rolling thing has been around since Railworks 2, if a player train approaches stationary stock which is not on the level they will move with accordance with the gradient, its not really a bug of the O4 but something with the simulator which isn't really super high on the fix list since it doesn't particularly break the simulator persay.

I also believe the wagons in the scenarios are the unfitted type, especially the ones in the two scenarios mentioned so they would roll without being locked, unfortunately a brake van on the back and the simulator not automatically setting brakes to on when you place a consist down isn't especially helpful and would be something nice for RSC to add or automate in the future.

In real life on Woodhead the actual wagons would have been "pinned" so they wouldn't move and pinning was also used to retard the speed of unfitted trains on downhill gradients. You could probably create the same effect by going into the scenario editor and swapping out some of the unfitted for fitted wagons of the same type which are included with the O4 and manually toggle on the breaks via the UI to do that to control speed and improve stopping.

Braking wise, the O4 is pretty good, is just the fact in the provided the scenarios the train workload is pretty heavy and also is unfitted so braking distances need to be ramped up considerably, rather than just slam on 100% brakes and hope to hit the target. It seems to brake fine with MK1s fine so I pretty sure its down to the unfitted wagons and weight.

Thanks for this - just slightly comical chasing off after my consist!

Posted: **Sun Oct 21, 2012 8:38 am**

Rockdoc2174 wrote:....All went well until I got a fail because the player's engine had run out of water.

I don't know if this helps or if we talk about the same thing here, but I run into a similar problem when I swapped a Black 5 for a 4F in a scenario on the Coniston Branch. No double heading or anything but when I started to drive, my 4F run out of fuel. When checking in the editor I found out that the tender was empty (no coal). I 'filled' the tender in the right hand fly out window (appears when you click on the tender) and everything was fine after that. Never had this before when swapping locos. You may want to check the fuel and water situation of the O4 tenders you swapped in the editor before starting to drive.
Jos

Posted: **Sun Oct 21, 2012 8:57 am**

black8 wrote:
Rockdoc2174 wrote:....All went well until I got a fail because the player's engine had run out of water.
I don't know if this helps or if we talk about the same thing here, but I run into a similar problem when I swapped a Black 5 for a 4F in a scenario on the Coniston Branch. No double heading or anything but when I started to drive, my 4F run out of fuel. When checking in the editor I found out that the tender was empty (no coal). I 'filled' the tender in the right hand fly out window (appears when you click on the tender) and everything was fine after that. Never had this before when swapping locos. You may want to check the fuel and water situation of the O4 tenders you swapped in the editor before starting to drive.
Jos

Most likely situation to what has happened, I've put double heading O4s on some testing with freight loads with DT's uk wagons and some of the 4F wagons to give some other prototypical mixed freight loads the O4s would pull and wasn't a issue with water or coal.

I do recall it being said a few times by scenario creators that while direct swapping of the actual locomotive is fine with rw-tools the tender doesn't give a direct translation when it comes down to fuel and water levels so manual adjustment ingame is required, which personally I've always done since there is sigificant differences between tender loads for the various different steam locomotive we have.

There was a bug in TS2012 which made additional engines run out of water, but that was supposedly fixed and I've not seen it happen in TS2013 thus far so I'd lean more on the above explaination than anything wrong with the actual O4.

Posted: **Sun Oct 21, 2012 1:00 pm**

Thanks you, chaps. I'll check.

EDIT You were quite right but it isn't consistent. The O4 tenders had neither coal nor water. The V2 tender had 95% water and no coal. Weird!

Keith

Posted: **Sun Oct 21, 2012 7:07 pm**

Had a similar problem when I swopped the Class 111 dmu for a Class 166, no fuel.

DaveW

Posted: **Mon Oct 22, 2012 4:04 am**

I did the Night Freight scenario and noticed that when I had the sanders on the lead loco to stop the slipping the banking loco was still slipping. Any known cure for this?

Regards, John.

Posted: **Tue Oct 23, 2012 2:55 pm**

It seems that an extra scenario was patched in for the O4 last night,

so now there IS 5 scenarios... one tutorial/introduction, and 4 good long missions

Posted: **Sun Oct 28, 2012 2:27 pm**

Ok,
Firstly I AM enjoying the Robinson,
but...
The last few items of DLC I've bought Ive had to fix
ICE3: Passengers and Driver missing
F40PH: Brakes not showing released on the Coaches,
Class 67: Well lets not even mention that one

Robinson 04: Dials not working and/or showing incorrect values.
Seriously, I looked at it the first time I was in the cab and thought, "what does that gauge relate to?"

Anyway If youve noticed and want to fix it before RSC release a patch....
Go into the .bin file and change the maximum value of the pressure gauges from 300 to 240.
I'm going to see if I can fudge an animation together to get the other needle (Steam Heat...I think, the one on the left) to move. Everything else is there just no animation.

Dave

I will email RSC tomorrow to let them know so they can start on an official update and have it done by Tuesday.
but I'll carry on with mine just in case

Posted: **Thu Nov 08, 2012 7:20 pm**

Re: Robinson O4 2-8-0 coming soon

Postby prairie4566 on Thu Oct 18, 2012 9:37 pm
Mmm. I got the A4 a while back as I could have used it in the past. Ran the scenarios and haven't used it since on any of my own routes. Time may come though.

Similar with the 04. Not planning on anything new but obviously would have been nice to have on the GCR when I was scenario making for Matt.

In contrast to the A4 though, it seems I'll have to get Woodhead then in order to just try it out

Not sure on the NLLR, assuming it's the North Lindsey Light Railway. If it's apparently WIP I'd rather see it persued. Cheers though

As you probably know, the NLLR currently covers North Lincolnshire lines from Whitton in the west to Immingham in the east. In 1959, Immingham Shed had a total of 14 O4s allocated to it, whilst Frodingham Shed (Scunthorpe) 25! (It had had 42 allocated in 1950!!). WD 2-8-0s were also common at both sheds, and B1s at Immingham (22 in 1959).

The next update to the "NLLR" (actually that should be North Lincolnshire Lines now) will include the stretch from Brocklesby Junction to Grimsby, Grimsby Docks, and Cleethorpes, including vast sidings at Brickpits, Alexandra Dock, West Marsh, East Marsh, New Clee, and a few at Cleethorpes. I'm hoping it will be uploaded round about the middle of December. I'll let you know nearer the time.

Posted: **Wed Nov 21, 2012 9:00 pm**

Hello, Has anyone had this issue with the Robinson O4?

The Chimney smoke is slightly offset to left, And the whistle steam has strange black lines in it when it reaches its maximum height. It was alright before, But then out of nowhere these problems came along and have remained ever since.
If anyone could help i'd be ever so grateful, Its very distracting while trying to drive the O4.