Atomic Systems

Steam workshop would work to its full potential if people started uploading stuff to it (obviously). But I mean like the freeware packs could be up there, peoples UKTS content eventually.. To have most things in one place would be great. Railworks is a pain because there wasn't a one stop place until now! I get a headache trying to find assets and download them, keep them organised etc.. Much prefer the ways of Trainz and the DLS, which can seem annoying but once I started using Railworks I realised how good the Trainz system was.

As handy, and as easy as it may be.... if you subscribe to a scenario on Workshop do you actually get a copy on your hard drive? Admittedly I've only done a very quick test but it would seem that to actually play a 'Workshop' scenario you have to be on-line----could somebody confirm this?

Regardless of the answer, I still think UKTS is a pretty good 'one stop' resource.

gptech wrote:As handy, and as easy as it may be.... if you subscribe to a scenario on Workshop do you actually get a copy on your hard drive? Admittedly I've only done a very quick test but it would seem that to actually play a 'Workshop' scenario you have to be on-line----could somebody confirm this?

Regardless of the answer, I still think UKTS is a pretty good 'one stop' resource.

Correct, it only downloads the scenario when you actually go to play it, so you'll need to be online at this point.

But, having run it once, it appears in the Single Player list for the route and you can resume from a saved position. If you play it from the Workshop screen you can only ever start from the beginning.

Keith

Uploading scenarios is actually very easy. You do have to make sure the Scenarios.xml file is edited as well if you have swapped out any stock though.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/f ... d=99121584 First scenario from here i have uploaded to Workshop due to lack of DLC or Freeware required for it.

Chris

It's not without problems as pointed out in another thread on here.

Re-reading the posts, I have a few comments to make of my own now that everyone is familiar with Steam Workshop.
There is a dearth of scenarios appearing on UKTS and an abundance of them on Steam Workshop. I am not in favour of Steam Workshop because of the requirement to having ALL of the DLC before the downloaded scenario can run. With scenarios uploaded to UKTS if you do not have the required Assets there is always the choice of using RWTools to substitute to what you have or what you prefer. For me this is a big drawback in using Steam Workshop. Uploading and deleting a scenario that one has created must be a relatively simple task with Steam Workshop as I have seen that one scenario for the S&DJR has been uploaded in three guises namely, The Pea Souper as was in the UKTS files, then uploaded as A-Long-Passenger-Train and now into it's third reincarnation with a Russian title which my wife tells me translates as Lilac Mist. Some of the scenarios uploaded have not been tested as witnessed by the comments attached to the scenario eg, cannot unzip the file or where is the ending?
I have yet to try to alter the Assets in a Steam Workshop scenario on my hard drive using RWTools. I don't know if anyone else has tried, succeeded or failed, doing this. SR green coaches on The Port Road just doesn't gel for me! So, Steam Workshop has started off by cornering the scenario market but is restricted to DLC which is a real limitation in my mind. My advice to all scenario creators is to upload to UKTS instead and give your creation to a wider audience and retain the rights to it. To each his own.
Steam Workshop is not in My Favourites list,

Regards, John.

I've got mixed feelings on the Workshop.

On the plus side, it is incredibly easy to use. A few clicks of the mouse from within the game itself and you can browse, consider, download, install and be in the cab driving in under a minute. No subscription fees, no messing around with RWP / RAR files, no need to use the standalone installer.
Another (debatable - see next paragraph) bonus is that because the scenarios only use Steam items then there is no need to spend hours reading lengthy readme's, downloading a wealth of additional reskins etc, no need to be swapping out that troublesome truck in RW Tools! However, this leads on directly to the negatives:

The use of Steam only DLC does limit variety and era-specific accuracy in certain scenarios. It also completely freezes out some third party creators who have decided to go it alone and are not part of the Steam gang or who do not embrace the support of other devs, although this may actually not be a bad thing in some cases.
Another negative (personal to me) is that for some reason there are far too many scenarios keep cropping up on Workshop for London to Brighton, in my opinion only I might add! As good as the route is, there is only so many times you can run up and down in the same units doing the same commuter runs before you've had enough. I've had enough!! More loco scenarios please!!

In summary, I actually think I prefer the Workshop system. That surprises me because I was very sceptical before and have always been a bit of a realism junkie. However, through using Workshop I've now realised how much time I used to waste pouring over readme's and faffing about in RWTools and downloading endless reskins and I don't miss it. I drive from the cab 99% of the time anyway so reskins and liveries are not all that important afterall.

I had a look at Steam Workshop this morning and there is a scenario to download which contains non-DLC item, namely a JT Seacow, isn't this against the house rules?
The scenario is called Diesel Work and features a Class 55 Deltic.

Thanks to those who uploaded scenarios. There are some pretty good ones up there already.

One thing I would like to query is if there are scenarios based on realistc timeings etc should there be a way of flagging those up to seperate them from the fictional ones?

Cheers.

S.

You are reliant on the person uploading it to indicate if it's a real life schedule or not.

I'm a big fan of this addition. I think if you pay a sub on this site then it's not particularly useful, but if you don't, it's a god send if you are looking for a new scenario to try.

I'll be honest about the Steam Workshop, some activities are good and some are bad the ones i mainly go for are the DPSimulation activities because they are very well thought out and are very enjoyable to do, but then you got some really naff acts for instance it was called 1A11 Glasgow-Kings Cross sleeper and it was Mk2s (despite the fact you can buy sleepers off Steam) and a default Class 47 with the number 43210 which to me stinks of down right laziness and the description in the F1 screen just said "Supply description here" which again seems rather lazy, if the person who made that activity is on here i mean no offense but it doesn't hurt to put a number on a Class 47.


On a related note i downloaded an activity for the IOW which according to TS2013 i haven't got when in fact i have as i bought it on a disc off Amazon a few years back, is there a patch for this or do i need to do a reinstall because i definately do have it???

This past weekend I bought Bristol to Exeter on sale from JT. Scenarios seem to run fine. However, it doesn`t show in Collection or QD(not a problem),more importantly, Steam Workshop doesn`t recognise my B-E so I can't run any of those scenarios.
As previously stated by others, only Steam DLC is "eligible" for Steam Workshop,but I don't see any differences between the Steam version and the JT version.
I've previously bought Woodhead and CL76/77 from another source(Getgamesgo) and it is recognised by Workshop.(some suggest this due tothe fact that you buy a keycode that activates on Steam--making it a defacto Steam purchase)
I'm guessing it's due to some DRM scheme that Steam employs, if so, some 3rd party sellers are going to be in a bind....yes I know there's lots of scenarios available here and elsewhere,but if Steam Workshop gains traction(sorry ) then what???

Any ideas/comments?

The Steam workshop only registers stuff bought through Steam, which is probably why it lists your IoW as 'missig' as it isn't bought through Steam.

I had the same problem with the IOW and 2 trains.all of which I had.
The IOW was a download from Just Trains and the trains from RSC.
I contacted both Steam and Rail Simulator.I did have a reply but not much help.
But now the good news - a few days ago all are now working, as usual
nobody contacted to say that it was fixed but fixed it was!
David