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Re: Settings for upgraded Railworks
Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 10:53 am
by Kromaatikse
It's not really an Nvidia versus ATI thing - more to do with memory bandwidth on the card. A 5750 with 75GB/s does predictably better than an 8800GT with 50GB/s at the same settings.
Traditionally ATI has optimised to reduce the memory bandwidth their cards need on typical games, and then sold mid-range cards with less bandwidth and more shaders than the norm. However it seems that Railworks *really* needs that bandwidth for some of the new stuff.
Meanwhile the high-end cards on both sides have loads of bandwidth and so both work well.
Re: Settings for upgraded Railworks
Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 11:20 am
by theokus
Kromaatikse wrote:It's not really an Nvidia versus ATI thing - more to do with memory bandwidth on the card. A 5750 with 75GB/s does predictably better than an 8800GT with 50GB/s at the same settings.
Traditionally ATI has optimised to reduce the memory bandwidth their cards need on typical games, and then sold mid-range cards with less bandwidth and more shaders than the norm. However it seems that Railworks *really* needs that bandwidth for some of the new stuff.
Meanwhile the high-end cards on both sides have loads of bandwidth and so both work well.
So what do you see as needed bandwidth Kromaatikse?
Suppose I want to invest, then I am not interested in the minimum needed

I'll go for the best.
Re: Settings for upgraded Railworks
Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 11:23 am
by Kromaatikse
You might be interested in my latest FAQ. I've put in a very rough calculation there.
The next post in that series will talk about upgrades for people on a tight budget. After that, I'll move on to a somewhat less tight budget, and then give some overall recommendations for people with plenty of disposable income.
Re: Settings for upgraded Railworks
Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 11:34 am
by theokus
Kromaatikse wrote:You might be interested in my latest FAQ. I've put in a very rough calculation there.
The next post in that series will talk about upgrades for people on a tight budget. After that, I'll move on to a somewhat less tight budget, and then give some overall recommendations for people with plenty of disposable income.
Kromaatikse....
Nice gesture and I think it's wonderful that you dare take some (sort of) responsibility.
It will also mean a relief for many users.
And I am grateful already

Re: Settings for upgraded Railworks
Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 1:48 pm
by Kromaatikse
Well, I trawled my local retailer's website (they're big enough to be representative) and came up with some good upgrade options within a €300 budget - and some for noticeably less than that.
Next I think I'll try for a €500 budget.
Re: Settings for upgraded Railworks
Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 1:54 pm
by pjt1974
Thank you for the time and effort you are putting in on this Kromaatikse.
Re: Settings for upgraded Railworks
Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 10:17 pm
by SSimon
Evening all, sorry to intrude but as we have been grateful for some of the information kindly collated by UKTS users following the launch of TS2012, it seems only polite to post a link to our graphics settings video here in case it may be of benefit to you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Njr1bSFWoMw
I may add this to one or two other threads here - mods, if this is unacceptable please edit/remove as required.
Cheers
Simon
Re: Settings for upgraded Railworks
Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 10:35 pm
by Kromaatikse
The suggestions for €500 budget upgrades are up.
As it turns out, you can build a complete €800 or €1000 full system upgrade by combining the CPU and GPU sections there, since there aren't really any further useful upgrades beyond that point on the market at the moment.
Yet, at the same time, there aren't any worthwhile laptops within a €500 budget as far as I can tell. Plenty of laptops can run Railworks with TSX off, of course, but it takes one specifically designed for gaming to run it properly.
Re: Settings for upgraded Railworks
Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 10:51 pm
by paulz6
Kromaatikse wrote:The suggestions for €500 budget upgrades are up.
As it turns out, you can build a complete €800 or €1000 full system upgrade by combining the CPU and GPU sections there, since there aren't really any further useful upgrades beyond that point on the market at the moment.
Yet, at the same time, there aren't any worthwhile laptops within a €500 budget as far as I can tell. Plenty of laptops can run Railworks with TSX off, of course, but it takes one specifically designed for gaming to run it properly.
Where?
Re: Settings for upgraded Railworks
Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 10:53 pm
by Kromaatikse
Re: Settings for upgraded Railworks
Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 11:19 pm
by theokus
New update released by Steam tonight.
Re: Settings for upgraded Railworks
Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 9:58 am
by gege21
rabid wrote:Hope this helps higher-end PC users find their sweet spot.
David
Hello

!
I have appreciate your good guideline report !
For me this settings are improved the visual in game ! Notabily the anisotropic 16 x and texture filtering negative LOD BIAS at Clamp !
Primary I had used the basic Nvidia control panel for this, but without effect in game !
Secondary I use the the good Nvidia Inspector as you and this make a good result in game without a down off FPS !
My rig is similar as your : i7 965 @ stock @ 3.2 Ghz with turbo mode @ 3.4 Ghz - GTX 580 @ 1.5 Go - 12 Go DDR3 Ram Tri CH Corsair PC 12800 @ 1600 Mhz - HDD WD Véloci. 10000 Rpm - OS W7 Pro 64 Bit
Thank you VR that helped me !
Best Regards
Gerard
Re: Settings for upgraded Railworks
Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 5:16 pm
by msdejesus
rabid wrote:
Hope this helps higher-end PC users find their sweet spot.

David
I found it most informative, thanks a lot.
Manuel
Re: Settings for upgraded Railworks
Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 5:34 pm
by crumplezone
If anyone needs detailed information on there processor, memory and motherboard including model numbers and what not, there is a program called CPU-Z which when installed allows you to, it is however for advanced users in the sense it gives you all the details for voltage and frenquencies but maybe also useful if you cannot find a manual for your motherboard, to note also the motherboard section of the program can even tell you what your BIOS version is at.
Can get it from here and its free:
http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/cpu-z.html
Example image of what info it gives of my own processor:

Re: Settings for upgraded Railworks
Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 6:39 pm
by theokus
crumplezone wrote:If anyone needs detailed information on there processor, memory and motherboard including model numbers and what not, there is a program called CPU-Z which when installed allows you to, it is however for advanced users in the sense it gives you all the details for voltage and frenquencies but maybe also useful if you cannot find a manual for your motherboard, to note also the motherboard section of the program can even tell you what your BIOS version is at.
Can get it from here and its free:
http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/cpu-z.html
Example image of what info it gives of my own processor:

I can not read SPD in CPU-Z.....
** One of my memory is broken; Have now 10 > should be 12 gig.