Atomic Systems

Hi all

The Editor/Worldeditor is not working anymore for me since a couple of days.

I first thought it was for the Bath to Templecombe 1955 route/scenarios only but the editor is crashing the sim with other routes / scenorios too.

Is the a known fault in this sim? Can somebody help with this.

Thanks
Jos

**** I realized that I put this new topic in the RS section by mistake. I am taliking about TS2015 of course. Moderators please be so kind and remove this topic from the RS section. Thank you ****

There aren't any problems like that with the sim right now.

When you say 'is not working' what do you mean? Does it freeze? Does it display an error message? What's happening?

When I open the editor from the 'Build' tab, selecting a scenario and 'edit' the sim starts but crashes after a while and creates a dump file.
When I open the Worldeditor while in a scenario the sim freezes and crashes with a dump file.

It sounds like a problem with the core files. Before you spend too much time troubleshooting make sure your files are OK. Go into steam and 'Verify Integrity of Game Cache'.

That's what I thought I may have to do. But it means that I will have to re-install a lot of 3rd party add-ons, sound upgrades and such, right?

If we assume that it's the game core that's awry, and that your assets and contents are fine you could kill 2 birds with 1 stone and take the opportunity to get the game out of 'Program Files' and negate any possibility of Windows own 'system file protection' getting in the way.

Decide on a sensible location for Steam, a different physical drive if you have one would be ideal but if not C:\Steam; C:\Games\Steam; C:\TS2015\Steam are all perfectly valid---the location is entirely up to you, as long as it makes sense to you and that the RailWorks directory will eventually live under ..\Sream\SteamApps\Common

Once you've worked that out, create the Steam directory, copy Steam.exe from your existing installation and double click it. This will force Steam to firstly reorganise itself for the new locatiuon and then download a fresh copy of the game, along with any Steam distributed DLC.
Once the games core files are installed you could stop the download/installing of the DLC and just copy over your assets and contents, but I'd recommend letting Steam ensure all the default stuff is 'kosher'

Once it's finished that, just copy over your 3rd party stuff, and any default stock that's been *enhanced*

Your existing installation will now become a reasonable backup copy of your assets and routes, so there's no need to go through re-installing things from scratch, and it also does give you the opportunity to clean out any stuff you don't use but without junking it completely.

Sounds like a good plan Gary. Did not know about Windows' own 'system file protection'. Btw the problems with the editors started while trying to get the '1955 Banana special 6MT' scenario to load; you remember that one.

At this moment however I do not have enough diskspace available that can contain 2 installations at the same time while setting up Steam/TS2015 anew so I have to do something about that first.

Thanks,
Jos

How much free disc space do you have, and what is the total size of your drive Jos, there could be a connection here between the free space and your problems.

Total drive is 1TB divided over 2 partitions of approx. 500GB. Steam is located on the C: partition and I have 92 GB left free on that one. Total size of Steam/RS2015 is approx. 182GB though. The other partition D: has 24 GB left free.

With 116GB free space out of what could be (because of how HDD manufacturers measure Gigabytes) 976GB you're using about 88% of that drive---that's getting to a point where Windows doesn't have the room to properly do all the 'house keeping' routines to keep a hard drive in a good working configuration.
I haven't seen an official figure for Windows 7, but XP needed 15% free disc space in order to run 'Defragmenter' so you can see just how tight things have become for you.

Is there a real need for the partitioning of the drive? With NTFS there's no performance benefit, and many would say that the reverse is actually the case.

gptech wrote:Is there a real need for the partitioning of the drive? With NTFS there's no performance benefit, and many would say that the reverse is actually the case.

Don't know. This is how the PC was set up when I bought it. The C: part is supposed to be the main part with all programmes and such and the D: part is for storage purposes I guess and named 'DATA'. Originally there were no programmes located here.

***EDIT: I tried the editor and worldeditor today and both appear to be functioning again. Yesterday there was a short Steam verification on start-up as happens every once in a while and that possibly made it work again. I am so glad (knock on wood).

black8 wrote:

gptech wrote:Is there a real need for the partitioning of the drive? .....

Don't know. This is how the PC was set up when I bought it.. ...)

That's fine, it won't be doing any real harm, other than not being adhering to todays accepted view. Many still use partitioning to logically define their disc areas for their own benefit, and who's to argue with that?

There's nota lot you can do with it at the moment,as your drive(s) are just too full, and even though you now seem to be up and running again I'd strongly recommend you look at why you haven't any storage space. If it's full of stuff you simply can't get rid of---a lifetime of photos for example then you need another drive; if there's an awful lot of junk then a good 'spring clean' is in order. Either way, you really do need to free up some space, any fragmentation on your drive will be un-fixable at the moment as there's nowhere to temporarily store the data whilst the disc is being organised so you're always going to be running the risk of huge slow-downs and crashes because the data can't be accessed quickly enough.