Settle and Carlisle Route?

[Acorncomputer]

Just out of interest, would a top quality Settle and Carlisle route be a good freeware choice for a RailWorks or was the MSTS (Pat Dalton) version the definitive one that cannot be matched?

[wolly1380]

I think settle to carlisle is a route that every one will relate too i think it would be a goodn

[Blackpatch]

Hi Geoff, it would be a huge ask to produce a top quality Settle & Carlisle. If anyone should know the full ramifications of the task, I know you have got your hands sufficently dirty with other projects to fully appreciate it as a potential project.

Interest in the route would be very popular I'm sure and see no reason why the MSTS version can't be topped with an RS or RW version. It will be interesting to see how much discussion comes out of this thread.

BP

[Acorncomputer]

Hi

I still have thoughts on organising a group route and this might be a good choice. Plenty of reference material and it might be popular outside of the UK as well.

[wolly1380]

Now this has got me intrested one hurdle though... I have never created a route and like dosens here would love to create one.

[choccy]

I think it would be a fantastic choice. The MSTS Skipton to Carlisle is a great route, though initially covered a a period (1920's) now long since gone (It's since been modified for a later period). I would have thought setting the route in the steam-green diesel era (circa 1960-68) would be the most popular as it would appeal to a wider clientelle having the advantage of a variety of traction and also covering a period before extensive rationalisation. It will involve a lot of work but at least there aren't too many areas of complex trackwork. On the other hand there are many green fields which I hope won't be as time consuming as industrial areas, though that could be a matter of personal choice.

Mark

[Acorncomputer]

One feature of RW is the scenario specific scenery. It might be possible to create a base route with much of the close to track scenery placed in the scenarios which could be based themselves in different eras. This might be a little complex and RW might not be able to handle it but there is scope to experiment.

[CaptScarlet]

One feature of RW is the scenario specific scenery. It might be possible to create a base route with much of the close to track scenery placed in the scenarios which could be based themselves in different eras. This might be a little complex and RW might not be able to handle it but there is scope to experiment.

One of the RS Bath to Templcombe scenarios does this exact thing in that the housing has been modernised. The only limitation is that the track infrastructure cant be changed.

John

[whittaker]

Hi all ,ive already made a good start on this route ,Carlisle to Hellifield .1950 style.
My main era is the 60s but to do this route properly you need to work around 1950 before the closures started and thats where ive started.

Ive done all the donkey work ,dems and markers ETC and have started track laying from the Carlisle end of the route up as far as cumwhinton .ive also been busy building assets for the route ie the midland signal boxes and s&c station .

At the moment im working on the yards at Carlisle and have completed Petteril bridge and Durran hill and now am working on the freight lines around the rome street jct area with the intention to add Dentonholme goods and kingmoor.ive done the flyovers at bog hall jct and ran a single line through citadel up to Kingmoor(what a job to get these to meet and look right),reason for this im planning to build the station as one asset instead of seperate platforms etc then add the track.

im using some other developers assets with permission for this route at the moment ie .yellands BR midland region signal kit,jadshomes cattle pens(loads of these from one end to the other.)and also the LNWR signal boxes for the Carlisle area.
also ive used the default S&D track to keep it straight forward.

I started with the idea of adding this route to a comunity cd in the future and any help with the project will be apreciated as i do know what a endles task this route will be.

PS working to the bible , Stations and structures of the settle & carlisle railway,including track plans and signaling diagrams by VR Anderson and GK Fox and loads of my own knowledge of the route

thanks

Joe Whittaker

[ka959]

Hi Geoff, it would be a huge ask to produce a top quality Settle & Carlisle. If anyone should know the full ramifications of the task, I know you have got your hands sufficently dirty with other projects to fully appreciate it as a potential project.

Interest in the route would be very popular I'm sure and see no reason why the MSTS version can't be topped with an RS or RW version. It will be interesting to see how much discussion comes out of this thread.

BP

You're not wrong there ! I, for one, would love to see a RailWorks version of the Settle & Carlisle route. The MSTS version was one of my favorites, but the modernised version of this route was better for me, at least. The grades and scenery of this route were what captivated me, although the MSTS version was a wee bit sparse as scenery goes, but the tunnels and cuttings, etc. were really great, and I loved testing the grades with heavy goods trains, and seeing which steam locos would perform well here. If someone created a RailWorks version, I'm positive I'd be playing it very often, and would appreciate having a copy of this route very much. YES - please would someone see how they go with an accurately-portrayed-as-possible version of this route for RailWorks. Thanks if anyone is intrigued enough to try.

Regards...

Jim McDermott

[Wikkus]

Just out of interest, would a top quality Settle and Carlisle route be a good freeware choice for a RailWorks or was the MSTS (Pat Dalton) version the definitive one that cannot be matched?

It'd be great to have Pat's route in RS/RW... As someone who (briefly) helped with the beta-testing, it was a cracker; slogging 9Fs up "The Long Drag" on semi-fitted mixed freights... Jumpers for goal-posts, etc.

Rik.

[Mike10]

I would have thought setting the route in the steam-green diesel era (circa 1960-68) would be the most popular as it would appeal to a wider clientelle having the advantage of a variety of traction and also covering a period before extensive rationalisation.

That's what we thought too

http://www.trainzclassics.co.uk


Mike.

[justinford]

Hi all,

It would be good to see this route on Railworks, espically with the improved graphic engines for the game.

Justin.

[diagram]

Not sure if it would be much help, but, I live in Skipton and have access to a good digital camaa.

Paul

[Acorncomputer]

Hi

Joe is already working on this route so it seems best to let him get on with it.

If you need any assistance Joe then let us know.