IOW/Newcastle-York getting RW2012 Facelift..

[y2flexy]

don't know if it's been posted on here or not but I couldn't see a thread, mentioned on Facebook that both these routes are getting the update treatment, not quite sure how IOW will work as I bought it through JustTrains (i think, it was a while ago!) never the less it's good that it's getting the update!

[220389]

Both do look very nice i have to say.

Also copy and paste from my comment on the facebook image of IOW.

Hmmm will be interesting. Take it will just benefit those who have the steam based version? So those who are using the older Rail Simulator version will most likely have to rebuy? :/

Chris

[TheTazman]

..... is that an arch i can see from the conductor rail?

[transadelaide]

..... is that an arch i can see from the conductor rail?

I don't think so, it looks to be white light coming from the marker light. Arcing from top-contact electric rails is (going on last wisdom) not possible in RW because the program doesn't know which side the electric rails are located or where they start and stop. All the program understands is that an electric train can run on that track ribbon, and the visible third/fourth rail/s are just a scenic item added manually.

And it would be an arc you're talking about, an arch is a structure that spans a space and supports a load (Wikipedia) which I'm not seeing in that picture.

[PaulH2]

..... is that an arch i can see from the conductor rail?

I don't think so, it looks to be white light coming from the marker light. Arcing from top-contact electric rails is (going on last wisdom) not possible in RW because the program doesn't know which side the electric rails are located or where they start and stop. All the program understands is that an electric train can run on that track ribbon, and the visible third/fourth rail/s are just a scenic item added manually.

I still think you could get "clever" with a fake signal object to provide the arcs but yes, it can be done as is with overhead electrification but not with 3rd rail due to the ambiguity.

[michaeldono]

Maybe you could make something that you place alongside the track, Paul's idea,that has a 25% or less chance of sparking? If you had a track connector thing like with signals, that when faces forward will make a spark on the left, and vice versa.

[transadelaide]

Could be good, but in my opinion that should be a lower priority than certain enhancements which will benefit people driving from the cab as well. Once newer versions of the dispatcher are available and portal spawning fixed, the number of AI trains you'll see will increase and then you'll have a decent reason to add sparks because there will be more other trains to see from the cab.

I'm still in favour of a completely new program fit for 2012 built from the bottom up. Then such stuff could be built in as standard rather than great numbers of convoluted efforts to add stuff that was never thought of over six years ago when EA/Kuju started on Rail Simulator.

[pacerfan]

Been waiting for this to get my third rail N-Y back on track. suspended it in case of problems when the default N-Y is updated

[y2flexy]

just been posted on FB regarding non-steam versions of IOW..

As most of you will know the Isle of Wight is being upgraded via Steam for the TSX engine (Train Simulator 2012 standard). A few of you have asked what will happen if you purchased it prior to June 2009 or have purchased a non-Steam integrated version either online or through a boxed partner. One of the benefits of Steam integrated product is that it is easily upgradable: unfortunately it is a complicated process to upgrade non-Steam integrated products, but we are aggressively looking at ways to do this. However we cannot promise that this will be possible, but we will do our best to come up with asolution and will keep you informed over the coming weeks.

...could be disappointing for a lot of people!

[crumplezone]

just been posted on FB regarding non-steam versions of IOW..

As most of you will know the Isle of Wight is being upgraded via Steam for the TSX engine (Train Simulator 2012 standard). A few of you have asked what will happen if you purchased it prior to June 2009 or have purchased a non-Steam integrated version either online or through a boxed partner. One of the benefits of Steam integrated product is that it is easily upgradable: unfortunately it is a complicated process to upgrade non-Steam integrated products, but we are aggressively looking at ways to do this. However we cannot promise that this will be possible, but we will do our best to come up with asolution and will keep you informed over the coming weeks.

...could be disappointing for a lot of people!

Why?

The rail simulator version is unsupported, outdated and doesn't have the assets which the new version of IOW expansion does and the other version from JT's is solely up to JTs to update and not RSC, since it is effectively 3rd party and the last time I checked RSC doesnt support or do in-house 3rd party updates and leaves it solely up to the 3rd party to resolve.

It would be like Microsoft giving free Window 7 discs/upgrades out to Win XP users because they refuse to buy/update to the new version of the OS but still feel entitled to have a free upgrade, just doesn't happen.

[briyeo1950]

But it isn't good for the sim to have different versions of the same addons is it?
I'm glad I bought IOW again off Steam a few months back, I think it was only just over £2 then in a sale. I thought that it was worth the money just to have it secured in my Steam library.

[y2flexy]

I always thought RS made the route and JT just distributed it before the days of Steam? Didn't even know there were different versions of it out to be honest! I certainly don't agree with paying again for something I've already got, especially for the sake of some raindrops and lamps at night..

[USRailFan]

I always thought RS made the route and JT just distributed it before the days of Steam? Didn't even know there were different versions of it out to be honest!

Somehow people keep spreading the misinformation that JustTrains made the IoW and Class 66 on their own... Both versions are the original, Rail Simulator ones made by RSDL (or whatever they called themselves at that time).

[y2flexy]

Somehow people keep spreading the misinformation that JustTrains made the IoW and Class 66 on their own... Both versions are the original, Rail Simulator ones made by RSDL (or whatever they called themselves at that time).

Thought that was the case!

[AndyM77]

just been posted on FB regarding non-steam versions of IOW..

As most of you will know the Isle of Wight is being upgraded via Steam for the TSX engine (Train Simulator 2012 standard). A few of you have asked what will happen if you purchased it prior to June 2009 or have purchased a non-Steam integrated version either online or through a boxed partner. One of the benefits of Steam integrated product is that it is easily upgradable: unfortunately it is a complicated process to upgrade non-Steam integrated products, but we are aggressively looking at ways to do this. However we cannot promise that this will be possible, but we will do our best to come up with asolution and will keep you informed over the coming weeks.

...could be disappointing for a lot of people!

I'm sorry but RSC are talking rubbish here...

I have an "Indie" game called Eufloria, a patch to the latest version was needed BUT the Steam version was going to be held up (reasons unknown). HOWEVER! they simply released a version of the patch which installed straight into the Steam folder and worked perfectly fine with both non-Steam and Steam products. The only requirement if you owned the Steam version was that you DID NOT use 'Verify Cache' otherwise the updated files would be overwritten by the older ones.

RSC simply need to send a version to Steam and have an executable with just the changed files on (Textures and map tiles) hosted on their website or somewhere else. This won't cause a problem with the Anti-Piracy features of Steam as it's never been enabled for that route due to the standalone version being available on disc / original Railsimulator store.

Alternatively, it's so old now, simply PERMANENTLY reduce the price of the DLC to something sensible (like a fiver) OR make it a core item - Jeeesh