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Re: New Route and Loco pack coming soon from JT...

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 7:04 pm
by USRailFan
Sorry, I misread it, I thought he said he'd buy it if there were a Steam sale...

Re: New Route and Loco pack coming soon from JT...

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 10:29 am
by 749006
fsclips01 wrote:Hi all!
Also, Switzerland now has its own realistic gantry system:

Image

On the JustTrains website there is now a full list of all train stations along the route available. ( http://www.justtrains.net )

Stefan
Not quite sure why we have a Swiss part when there are No Swiss Locos to Work the services.
The OBB 1116 would not be seen in St Margerethen only Buchs.
http://peter749.piwigo.com/picture?/100 ... n_railways

The services from [Munchen] - Lindau - St Margerethen - [Zurich] are worked by Swiss Re421 Electrics
http://peter749.piwigo.com/picture?/251 ... lways_2009
Is the Munchen - Zurich Euro City at Lindau.

Peter

Re: New Route and Loco pack coming soon from JT...

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 12:42 pm
by fsclips01
Hi

I think building the Rheitalbahn but not including Switzerland would be a bit pointless. After all the route was built to connect all three countries within the Rheintal.

I grew up along the branch line to Switzerland and you can see the odd 1x16 on that route crossing over to Switzerland. Mostly pulling freight trains out of Wolfurt.

There is a Swiss loco in the works (Re 4/4 - Re 460) but nobody knows when it will be released and it has been delayed many times now.

There are also other trains in development that can be seen on this route such as the Talent.

In any case I think it will be fun to drive a stopping passenger service crossing through three different countries within the space of 40min.

Stefan

Re: New Route and Loco pack coming soon from JT...

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 1:29 pm
by Darpor
749006 wrote: Not quite sure why we have a Swiss part when there are No Swiss Locos to Work the services.
Chicken and egg. The general trend is that people may be more liable to create something if they have somewhere to run it.

Although there are Swiss locomotives available, granted I don't know much about them or how prototypical they are for this route, but that isn't the point.

Linked from Obo's catalogue. http://railworks.banal.net/catalog/page ... ctric.html

Is this Swiss? http://www.simtrain.ch/productsRW/SBBRo ... Route1.htm

Also, the Taurus is in development at JT as well, doesn't that work in Switzerland?

Re: New Route and Loco pack coming soon from JT...

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 1:37 pm
by USRailFan
I don't think the Taurus works in Switzerland.

Re: New Route and Loco pack coming soon from JT...

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 1:41 pm
by skoda
OBB taurus work into Switzerland on Railjet services http://youtu.be/bUU6BMV0W08

Re: New Route and Loco pack coming soon from JT...

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 1:43 pm
by Darpor
USRailFan wrote:I don't think the Taurus works in Switzerland.
I wasn't sure, but this seems to suggest it does. http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.p ... 541&nseq=9

Also, it says that it is working a service between Austria and Switzerland, which is what this route represents?

Re: New Route and Loco pack coming soon from JT...

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 1:48 pm
by USRailFan
I know normally Austrian and German locos can't operate into Switzerland because of something with the design of their pantographs (too wide for the Swiss loading gauge, or something), but this may have been rectified in recent time, I had completely forgotten about the Railjets mentioned above. The image you linked to, though, Darpor, is said in the caption to be taken in Liechtenstein, so it may be that this particular train changed locomotives at the Liechtenstein-Switzerland border.

Re: New Route and Loco pack coming soon from JT...

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 1:51 pm
by Darpor
Possibly, yes. Although the video posted by skoda does seem to confirm it better than I could.

Anyway, the whole point I was trying to make was that there are Swiss locomotives available, or at least locomotives that visit Switzerland. (I think :D )

Re: New Route and Loco pack coming soon from JT...

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 2:00 pm
by USRailFan
There is even a complete Swiss add-on, the Gotthard route.

(Or, on second thought, that was the one Darpor linked to earlier?)

Re: New Route and Loco pack coming soon from JT...

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 2:41 pm
by iceman2117
Exciting new locomotive add-on announcement within the hour.
Stay tuned to RailSimulator.com for all details.
Anyone want to have guess as to what it might be?
http://www.facebook.com/railsimulator?ref=ts

g'ice

Re: New Route and Loco pack coming soon from JT...

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 4:23 pm
by smarty2
USRailFan wrote:Sorry, I misread it, I thought he said he'd buy it if there were a Steam sale...
No, Transadelaide got it right. :)

Re: New Route and Loco pack coming soon from JT...

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 4:34 pm
by smarty2
USRailFan wrote:I know normally Austrian and German locos can't operate into Switzerland because of something with the design of their pantographs (too wide for the Swiss loading gauge, or something), but this may have been rectified in recent time, I had completely forgotten about the Railjets mentioned above. The image you linked to, though, Darpor, is said in the caption to be taken in Liechtenstein, so it may be that this particular train changed locomotives at the Liechtenstein-Switzerland border.
German ICE 1's operate in Switzerland. You will see German loco's at the beginning of the vid and a Taurus. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfVXLqXy ... ubs_digest

Re: New Route and Loco pack coming soon from JT...

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 5:28 pm
by fsclips01
Don't forget that the Taurus was designed to work almost anywhere in Europe.

In order to do so it has to carry an enormous amount of extra technology. Since this would be overkill for some operators Siemens designed three different versions. The 1016 is mostly for Austria and Germany. The 1116 can be seen almost anywhere but can't operate in some very unique environments (this is also the loco that pulls the railjet high speed trains across many European countries). Finally there is the 1216 which has 4 pantographs and can be used pretty much anywhere.

The 1116 and 1216 are common visitors to Switzerland. The railjets are driving every day all the way to Zurich without any problems.

It may not be a Swiss loco but it can certainly be found in Switzerland.

Also, when the route from Feldkirch to Switzerland is closed, all traffic is diverted via St. Margrethen. This is when that little branch line becomes very interesting as all of a sudden in addition to the stopping passenger trains ICs, ECs to and from Switzerland and even France make their way along the tiny single track route.
Plenty of options for scenarios on the Three Country Corner route.
Also a wide range of trains can be seen there. From German, Swiss, Hungarian to Austrian or French in addition to ICEs and railjets.

One of the reasons for picking that route was that it lies in the heart of Europe and that a large variety of trains can be seen there.

I hope this helps a little.

Stefan

Re: New Route and Loco pack coming soon from JT...

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 8:10 pm
by johnmckenzie
USRailFan wrote:I know normally Austrian and German locos can't operate into Switzerland because of something with the design of their pantographs (too wide for the Swiss loading gauge, or something)
Are you sure about this? I clearly remember standing beside a BR103 in one of the big Swiss termini in 1983 - I think it was in Geneva