RSC DLC - Greater Variety Of Routes Needed

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Re: RSC DLC - Greater Variety Of Routes Needed

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I suspect there is an audience for all types of route, just as with music some will listen to a 12 minute Pendragon epic while others just want to bop along to Take That.

In terms of what would sell, as a smaller and cheaper route, a condensed network with plenty of industry would probably offer more appeal than a dusty old GW branch line, though as I said at the beginning with a bit of marketing that could still be a hit. I like the longer prototypical routes but for a quick "fix" something that offers a 25 or 30 minute scenario can be just as good.
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jimmyshand wrote:....fictional routes are not the way ahead in my opinion....
There are who would look on a route set 30, 40, 50 years ago as a form of 'fiction', especially if that route no longer existed, as is the case with much of Woodhead.
If a commercial company saw a market for a fictional route why shouldn't they build one? I'm sure they all do some market research and your post will probably help them..they now know the lost revenue from your projected purchase that won't happen has to recouped from the other sales---you've probably just increased the sales price of any fictional route by £0.0005 :-?
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I'm not into fictional routes, but Cresston's fictional and it's up there with some of the very best prototypical routes, payware or freeware.
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Fictional routes are a bit of a strange thing for me, Some I like, and Some I dont. I guess its down to everybodys own opinions with these. What I would like to see with fictional routes, is things like this.

What if many routes which were ripped up, still survived into the modern day? Somerset and Dorset modern is a good example of that. I didnt like the idea at first but when I saw some screenshots I warmed to the idea.

what about if the Great western mainline was electrified? things like that.
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rhysicus1989 wrote: what about if the Great western mainline was electrified? things like that.
That's less a fiction than it is a future-shock! :o :drinking: :lol:
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Wales and Borders is not actually an accurate recreation of Newport to Birmingham, in case anyone hasn't noticed. I dare anyone to suggest that isn't a work of art though.
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Kariban wrote:Wales and Borders is not actually an accurate recreation of Newport to Birmingham, in case anyone hasn't noticed. I dare anyone to suggest that isn't a work of art though.
I'd add to that that I'd dare anyone to come up with an "accurate" recreation of Newport to Birmingham that's better than W & B

jimmyshand wrote:I'm not trying to tell anyone what to build Steve, I suggest you read my post again. I'm pointing out my personal preference for real life routes in response to several people talking about fictional routes being a good idea. I disagree entirely, especially where powerhouses like RSC are concerned, they have the resources to create remarkably accurate recreations of real routes, would be a loss in my opinion for them to focus their might on made up routes just to shave maybe a fiver or so off the price. I'd rather pay 25 quid and get something sensational and accurate like Settle to Carlisle.
Point taken, my misunderstanding.


Like others have posted above me, my main criteria is that a route be "operationallyy interesting" and "good" ahead of "accurate". All three are pretty subjective terms I think.
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I dont see a problem with a good mix of fictional and realistic routes .
Fictional ones are easier to make and can be more interesting than RL ones . RL can have pretty boring stretches .
And i wouldnt say that SAD's routes dont have a realistic feeling , on the contrary .
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Kariban wrote:Wales and Borders is not actually an accurate recreation of Newport to Birmingham, in case anyone hasn't noticed. I dare anyone to suggest that isn't a work of art though.
Yes indeed, completely forgot about that one
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So....would sending jimmy a copy of my fictional US route be a bad idea??..........
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gptech wrote:So....would sending jimmy a copy of my fictional US route be a bad idea??..........
Is it primarily operated by real freight locos or weak plastic units?
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It'd have to be Conrail blue era, none of that modern privatized NS rubbish.
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Nearly all routes are fiction to me. Even when I could afford to travel on trains, it was only the station and shed areas I took notice off. The routes to get to most places were just blurs, so I wonder just how many people truly know a route (unless you use to drive it :D ). What bores me the most is A to B routes, although they may be very detailed and accurate after a few runs I stop doing them for a while, whereas any route with an offshoot or two is much more appealing to me.

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Don't get me wrong guys, I need to clarify a few points about fictional routes. I am not against them 100%, what I meant was that specifically for major route builders like RSC then I'm against that because they have the technical resource to create real routes in all their glory and I'd hate to see them stop. Fictional is great for freeware and indeed Wales & Borders was my favourite route for a very long time but now there are a plethora of super accurate real routes available then fiction just doesn't cut it anymore for me. We are all different though, I'm a stickler for realism and always looking for the most accurate experience possible both in terms of loco and route. I don't think there's a danger of RSC running out of real world UK routes anyway, if they're only going to do 100 mile sections at a time then it would take generations to cover the whole network!! It would take so long that even if they finished they could start over again with the latest tech, bit like painting the Forth Bridge!
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jimmyshand wrote:........... bit like painting the Forth Bridge!
:D :lol: 8) :drinking:

Yes i know what you mean Jimmy, I am a realism 'freak' too..or as you put it, a 'stickler' (never heard that one before :wink: )
'Why is it that the railway station is so far away from the village?'
The local pauses for a while, then replies:
'They thought it would be a good idea to build it next to the railway line.....'


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