4-VEP coming soon from RSC - Now Out

[bhl809]

I don't know if this has to do with the release of the 4-VEP, but now I've got a big problem when installing the old 4-Cig in any scenario: When I select any engine car of class 421 in order to place it on the rails, instead of the car I get a very badly distorted screen! The non motorized cars seem to work fine. The same is true for 4-Cigs which have been previously installed.

Has anybody had a similar experience?

Thanks for any advice.

[yerkes]

Have you cleared your cache? I gather this has resolved a couple of issues for people.

[bhl809]

Thanks for your reply, Michael. But clearing the chache doesn't help.

Am I really the only one who got this problem? Other people might not be aware of it because you have actually to try to place a 4-Cig motor car in a scenario. The existing scenarios with that train work fine!

Thanks for anybody taking the trouble to try it.

[yerkes]

I've been tinkering around with Portsmouth Direct during the day and creating Free Roam scenarios with the blue-grey and NSE CIGs... and no problems to report here, I'm afraid.

[markpullinger]

Hi, is the unit a reskin or default? The model has been upgraded recently & if a reskin might be referencing files from the old unit

[bhl809]

Thanks to your advice, markpullinger, I discovered that it's the repaints which don't work. The original 4-Cigs, BR Blue and Network Southeast, work fine!

As far as the differences between the 4-Cigs and 4-Veps are concerned, you have to look very closely to find any. For example, the windscreen vipers on the 4-Veps are painted black, there are a few more of the vertical cables on the front and the top of the roof on the front is slightly differently finished. I would say the 4-Veps are glorified repaints of the 4-Cigs and I am a bit miffed with RSC that they have made me pay the full price for it. They sure would have made more friends if they had given the 4-Veps at a reduced price or even as a free update to the people who bought the 4-Cig.

[theorganist]

I would say the 4-Veps are glorified repaints of the 4-Cigs and I am a bit miffed with RSC that they have made me pay the full price for it.

Did they put a gun to your head then?!!!

They aren't repaints they have a different layout and in essence are a different unit!

I will probably buy it but may wait for the next sale. If you aren't sure about something wait for a sale!

I haven't yet got Woodhead as I am not certain how it will perform on my system, however when there is another sale I will probably purchase it!

Pete.

[Darpor]

They sure would have made more friends if they had given the 4-Veps at a reduced price or even as a free update to the people who bought the 4-Cig.

Not with the bank manager.

Remember, you have a choice, nobody made you pay full price for anything.

[AndyUK]

....As far as the differences between the 4-Cigs and 4-Veps are concerned, you have to look very closely to find any....

How hard did you look? The side windows in the driving vehicles are very different for a start, hardly a glorified repaint but perhaps that spoils the fatuous case you seem to want to make.

Andy L

[Inthernet]

I haven't yet got Woodhead as I am not certain how it will perform on my system, however when there is another sale I will probably purchase it!

Pete.

Woodhead is about as demanding as Bristol-Exeter and the upgraded PDL on my system. Nowhere near as demanding as WCML-N/GARL/E-G (by night), but more demanding than NCL-York, Ox-Padd.

I can only wish RSC would do a CIG/VEP slammer bundle, but that's bad for the bottom line.

[FoggyMorning]

Doesn't the VEP have an entirely different bodyshell (albeit one also based on the Mk. 1 design) with far more passenger access doors than the CIG? Or am I confusing it with a different unit (all these Southern EMUs look the same to me anyway! )?

[Dave4468]

I haven't yet got Woodhead as I am not certain how it will perform on my system, however when there is another sale I will probably purchase it!

Pete.

Woodhead is about as demanding as Bristol-Exeter and the upgraded PDL on my system. Nowhere near as demanding as WCML-N/GARL/E-G (by night), but more demanding than NCL-York, Ox-Padd.

I can only wish RSC would do a CIG/VEP slammer bundle, but that's bad for the bottom line.

Bizzare, I find Woodhead to be the only route that challenges my PC, never had a problem with any of the others there.

[FoggyMorning]

I haven't yet got Woodhead as I am not certain how it will perform on my system, however when there is another sale I will probably purchase it!

Pete.

Woodhead is about as demanding as Bristol-Exeter and the upgraded PDL on my system. Nowhere near as demanding as WCML-N/GARL/E-G (by night), but more demanding than NCL-York, Ox-Padd.

I can only wish RSC would do a CIG/VEP slammer bundle, but that's bad for the bottom line.

Bizzare, I find Woodhead to be the only route that challenges my PC, never had a problem with any of the others there.

Oddly enough, out of all those listed there, Oxford-Padd is the one I struggle with the most

[yerkes]

Doesn't the VEP have an entirely different bodyshell (albeit one also based on the Mk. 1 design) with far more passenger access doors than the CIG? Or am I confusing it with a different unit (all these Southern EMUs look the same to me anyway! )?

Identical Mk 1 body, but:
1. VEP designed with high-density 3+2 seating and one door per seating bay, as opposed to the CIG which had 2+2 seating and fewer doors per coach
2. First class compartment at the outer end of the DTC on a CIG and the inner end on a VEP.
3. Larger guard's van on the original VEPs.

You'd be keenly aware of the differences if you'd been commuting in the South East - vitally important to know where to stand on the platform as you watched the train arriving, in order to get a seat!

[darren10000]

Afternoon All, this has probably been covered elsewhere but is there anyway of transposing the lights from the CIG to the VEP as the Headlights on the latter are useless

Darren
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