Stable system for running RW's?
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Hi smarty2,
The best way to test memory is with memtest http://hcidesign.com/memtest/ it tests your memory on a per core basis, you will need to run 4 instances of the program if you have a quad core cpu.
windows mem checker will do, i suppose. we just need to rule out the ram for sure.
just use 1 kit you know to work eg. your original 4gb kit or your new kingston kit. Test it for errors and if it passes just leave that paired kit in your system for now. don't add any more memory for now, until we find out what the problem is.
Once happy that your memory is not the culprit, and you are still getting sbhh.
I have to add at this point i have no idea what may be causing your problems but intermittent problems are often a result of overheating, While you have your case side panel off, run your rig and see if you can duplicate the sbhh.
for example does the sbhh take longer to occur now that the chassis side panel is removed and more air is circulating within your case.
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steve
The best way to test memory is with memtest http://hcidesign.com/memtest/ it tests your memory on a per core basis, you will need to run 4 instances of the program if you have a quad core cpu.
windows mem checker will do, i suppose. we just need to rule out the ram for sure.
just use 1 kit you know to work eg. your original 4gb kit or your new kingston kit. Test it for errors and if it passes just leave that paired kit in your system for now. don't add any more memory for now, until we find out what the problem is.
Once happy that your memory is not the culprit, and you are still getting sbhh.
I have to add at this point i have no idea what may be causing your problems but intermittent problems are often a result of overheating, While you have your case side panel off, run your rig and see if you can duplicate the sbhh.
for example does the sbhh take longer to occur now that the chassis side panel is removed and more air is circulating within your case.
regards,
steve
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Re: Stable system for running RW's?
Hi Steve, new ram should be arriving soon, I don't think it is an overheating problem as my gpu and cpu are liquid cooled, the new ram has some decent heat spreaders, I think we can confidently rule out heat!
I have a feeling RW's doesn't like my ye oldie quad core phenom or vice versa? Its just a gut feeling I have? 
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Hi Martin, unfortunately when you convert the CPU to liquid cooled you also remove the cooling to the adjacent power regulators, which can get very warm without the air moving past them from the CPU heatsink & fan. also is the cooler for the southbridge if you are using an ASUS board with heatpipe cooling for it.
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Hi Mark, I haven't any extra cooling for the southbridge no, however the air being blown out the rear by a 6 inch fan is very cool, it is a very well ventilated case.markpullinger wrote:Hi Martin, unfortunately when you convert the CPU to liquid cooled you also remove the cooling to the adjacent power regulators, which can get very warm without the air moving past them from the CPU heatsink & fan. also is the cooler for the southbridge if you are using an ASUS board with heatpipe cooling for it.
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Re: Stable system for running RW's?
Ok, cooked mine by using an after market upgrade - fortunately not terminally, but it blew sideways rather than down so everything that was previously being cooled got VERY toasty & because there weren't enough volts CPU ran hotter as well, Standard AMD cooler back on & system settled down nicely - well as nice as you can with Vista
It's much happier with win 7 64bit now....
Re: Stable system for running RW's?
Hi Martin,
i notice other AMD owners seem to be achieving good results, stable too. Are you having other instability issues elsewhere, or is it just RS2012?
i was doing a bit of reading, some of the ye old AMD cpu's had memory slot issues, this link will explain it better. http://www.techimo.com/forum/processors ... -only.html
i'm not even sure what CPU you have but worth a read.
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i notice other AMD owners seem to be achieving good results, stable too. Are you having other instability issues elsewhere, or is it just RS2012?
i was doing a bit of reading, some of the ye old AMD cpu's had memory slot issues, this link will explain it better. http://www.techimo.com/forum/processors ... -only.html
i'm not even sure what CPU you have but worth a read.
Regards,
Steve
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Wow! Seems you may well have stumbled onto something there, my cpu is an old 9550! Could be my gut feeling was right, it will be interesting to see if my new ram will trigger this bug?Esefkay wrote:Hi Martin,
i notice other AMD owners seem to be achieving good results, stable too. Are you having other instability issues elsewhere, or is it just RS2012?
i was doing a bit of reading, some of the ye old AMD cpu's had memory slot issues, this link will explain it better. http://www.techimo.com/forum/processors ... -only.html
i'm not even sure what CPU you have but worth a read.
Regards,
Steve
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Re: Stable system for running RW's?
Fingers crossed.
Running an I52500K myself using a small M4 ssd as Windows drive.
Steamapps is on a sata2 raid0 nothing special just 7200rpm (but both with large platters)
Asus Mobo P8z68v
8gb kingston ram 1600mhz ddr3
Corsair PSU
hd6870 graphics.
System is really stable and performs well with all my simulators, with the exception of cliffs of dover and TS2012, both are very stable just under performers.
I can get really good results with TS2012 when turning some settings down from maximum, and can achieve a playable WCML N on max.
NE corridor is a bit of a slide show in parts with everything on max tbh, but not as disappointing as CLOD.
glad i went for best bang for buck approach this time round, and eagerly await any improvements to the above sims as they come down the line.
hope this helps.
regards,
Steve
Running an I52500K myself using a small M4 ssd as Windows drive.
Steamapps is on a sata2 raid0 nothing special just 7200rpm (but both with large platters)
Asus Mobo P8z68v
8gb kingston ram 1600mhz ddr3
Corsair PSU
hd6870 graphics.
System is really stable and performs well with all my simulators, with the exception of cliffs of dover and TS2012, both are very stable just under performers.
I can get really good results with TS2012 when turning some settings down from maximum, and can achieve a playable WCML N on max.
NE corridor is a bit of a slide show in parts with everything on max tbh, but not as disappointing as CLOD.
glad i went for best bang for buck approach this time round, and eagerly await any improvements to the above sims as they come down the line.
hope this helps.
regards,
Steve
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Re: Stable system for running RW's?
Well my 8 gig of ram arrived today, set it up in the bios and seems to be working ok, going to run Rw's and wait for the inevitable sbhh! 
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Re: Stable system for running RW's?
It seems that AMD Phenom "bug" has been confirmed by this user, it seems it does not like my ram set at 1066, seems more stable set at 800 mhz? Updated the bios and going to experiment with 1066 again. but it seems my old phenom needs a boot up the hypers! 
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Re: Stable system for running RW's?
Hello Martin,
A couple of weeks ago I posted something that might help you getting your RAM stable:
http://forums.uktrainsim.com/viewtopic. ... 5#p1521740
Maybe worth a try?
Regards,
Frank
A couple of weeks ago I posted something that might help you getting your RAM stable:
http://forums.uktrainsim.com/viewtopic. ... 5#p1521740
Maybe worth a try?
Regards,
Frank
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Re: Stable system for running RW's?
What motherboard are you using? - my M2N SLI deluxe only supports up to 800MHz RAM anyway, so didn't see any point getting faster
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@ Frank I may give that a try thanks.
@Mark M2N SLI, I have the option in the BIOS to set it to 1066, haven't tried running it in that yet since updating the bios to 1002.
@Mark M2N SLI, I have the option in the BIOS to set it to 1066, haven't tried running it in that yet since updating the bios to 1002.
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Re: Stable system for running RW's?
Cheers
I've been running version 1502 for about 3 years with my athlon 64 x2 6400
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Hi, I went on Amazon and read the reviews concerning this ram and someone recommends setting the timings thus 5-5-5-15.... Now going into the settings in the bios dram there are a lot more settings than just the 4 described! which ones do these point to? Is it the first 5 which to me looks logical, or is it others near the middle or the end? The poster assures of better stability on the 1066 settings. Any one able to gently point me in the right direction please. 
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