What is your ultimate RW TS2012 wishlist?

[92212]

Routes

1950's Great Central Mainline from Nottingham Victoria - London.

1950-1960's Waterloo - Bournemouth including Bournemouth West station.

Exeter St.Davids to Central then on to Salisbury. Preferably steam or diesel era.

Mid-Hants Railway including mainline to Guilford

Locomotives

GWR Castle, Modified Hall, WD 2-10-0, new models of Britannia and Oliver Cromwell, New black 5 with a proper bark! And in LMS livery, new 7F, 8F in LMS black, Ivatt 4MT, Standard 4 2-6-0 & 4-6-0, Standard 5MT.

Regards

Matt

[valleyforge]

Hi,

Jimmy wrote,

"My main issue with RSC doing foreign routes is that they are not very realistic in so far as they are mostly guess work and approximation laced with lots of generic scenery."

Bit unfair i think but you are welcome to your opion mate,

Vern,
I won't put a link in as there are a few Video's on youtube and you have proberly seen them but for anyone else interested have a look on there for Indian Hill Railways the BBC made a great program a while back,

For me i'm quite happy as to what we have at least its better than nothing and i have said it before, "you can't please the people all of the time"

Perhaps though the core of the sim realy wants updating as far as possible but then of course people like me would be complaining "Oh No" not another PC upgrade!

Cheers,

Roger.

[Oldpufferspotter]

Wish lists are an interesting diversion when you've had enough of running trains, or creating scenarios or routes, and want something interesting to read as a break from all that. But that is all they are, and they will only have an effect on the freeware enthusiasts and maybe to a certain extent on third party developers.
If you don't believe me, have a look at Derek's reply in the 'Are RSC watching what we build' thread.
regards Ted.

[welshdragon]

I still use MSTS1 in addition to Railworks 2012 and although I am lucky in having a PC spec that runs Railworks without any problems, I would like to see all the improvements that everyone has suggested and if the 'Community' can do what they have to MSTS1, eg MSTSBin etc and just look at Clive Heard's BTB & SDJR routes for example I am sure someone can sort out the mess that is Railworks.

Regards
Alan

[jimmyshand]

Isn't it funny how we all have such wildy different wishes? My interest in railways is strictly territorial and does not extend outside of the UK. I've got less than zero interest in Indian railways or any other country for that matter whereas Vern for example craves them!! I think there are a couple of distinct types of railway enthusiasts, people who loves trains in general, any train, any route, any country and there are those that are interested specifically in what they know only. My main issue with RSC doing foreign routes is that they are not very realistic in so far as they are mostly guess work and approximation laced with lots of generic scenery. The UK stuff on the other hand is super accurate and realistic in comparisson due probably to the easy access to research material and data.

Don't misunderstand, there are a few UK lines I would like to see - West Highland or Kyle, professionally done with appropriate motive power from the 60's/70'/80's. It's just the identikit southern England suburban route syndrome, the news that we might be getting London to Brighton left me cold. Simulation offers a medium by which we can experience that we could never hope to in real life. I could never see me and Mrs Vern visiting India - for one thing my stomach gets upset and I gag on anything stronger than a spaghetti bolognese so living on/smelling curry for two weeks is a bit of a no, no. However put a decent version of one of those routes into the simulator and I'll be in my element!

I agree entirely there Vern!! I felt the same numbness on hearing the suggestions of London to Brighton! I'm sure it's terribly exciting if you happen to live there or have intimate knowledge of the route but for a neutral then southern England suburban routes are about as boring as it gets. As you say identikit and vanilla, boring featureless units running over boring featureless terrain. Seems we're in a minority however as the Facebook gang are getting themselves into a right frenzy over the London to Brighton rumour. Personally I can't for the life of me see how people can get so excited over a plastic unit running on a featureless commuter line but it's each to their own. To the younger generation then plastic units are all they've ever known so they get excited by those like we used to by class 37's, 20's, 31's, 40's, 50's, Peaks etc etc.

There is a virtually never-ending supply of character routes here in the UK that could keep RSC in business for decades. The Woodhead line was a classic example of how a quirky character route can be a barnstorming success and capture a massive audience. Far more popular than PDL for example, good though it is in its own way. I'm also enthralled by the class 76, never thought much of them prior to Woodhead but it's now one of my favourite locos to drive, loaded with character and uniquely challenging. More of this please RSC and less of the one-handle pull n' go, push n' stop plastic units!!

[andrewwhite82]

I would love to see a class 314 i love it's old traction motor sound when it leaves a station.

[rivimey]

I agree entirely there Vern!! I felt the same numbness on hearing the suggestions of London to Brighton! I'm sure it's terribly exciting if you happen to live there or have intimate knowledge of the route but for a neutral then southern England suburban routes are about as boring as it gets.

A model railway that got lots of attention when it went on show was of a Southern railway station during the WW2, complete with trucks loaded with tanks and aeroplane parts, bunkers and sandbagged houses, the works... oh and some lovely scenery and locos to boot.

I agree, generic modern trains in similar scenery leaves me cold; I personally don't understand the multiple voices for <insert modern stock here> given that we already have a multitude of them!

Hey ho.
Ruth

[asfinmja]

Something different please.

I'd like to see old stock and routes, preferably 19th hundred, or at least pre-WW2. Pioneering British railroads, or maybe a wild west railroad. I know referense material is harder to find for these, but anyhow they should not be impossible to build.

[malkymackay]

Something pre-grouping would be nice. What about the Highland Mainline? You could have the UK's first 4-6-0, the Jones Goods, along with the option of Loch's, Ben's (Big & Small), Barney's, Castle's and you could get away with rolling stock from a decent selection of companies outwith the HR themselves. Also it has the added bonus of hardly changing until the coming of the diesels, so the Black 5 wouldn't look out of place either.

[bGriff]

Ideally I'd quite like to see every single (present) route in the UK depicted with all modern traction.

Obviously you can't please everyone - I like Modern, someone likes Steam. I like modern routes, someone likes 1950s routes..

[bdy26]

Wishlist.... some older stuff, preferably rolling stock and freight and not just locos.

Some improved routebuilding tools, particularly a smaller grid mesh and grid tools, more scenery items (such as all the assets for RSC payware routes bundled into an asset pack to have a simplified dependency, and terrain painting you can actually blend easily. Do this to halve the time it takes to create a route, and your routebuilding wishlists might actually come true.

Oh and a rebuilt Royal Scot, an Ivatt 4MT, a Derby Lightweight DMU, a 108, a DBSO, Mk3 DVT, 81, 85, 87 and 90

B

[bigvern]

Second that on the route building tools - I don't know whether it's me but a couple of days ago is the first time I tried to do some terrain painting since the update and even with a setting of 120 -0.5 - 0.03 I was producing horrible splodges rather than a speckled effect which I've managed to achieve in the past with the same settings. At present, the terrain painting is like putting a kiddies' crayon pack in Picasso's painting toolbox. A massive overhaul and the addition of copy and paste is about three years overdue.

[metrobus]

Anything as long as its LMS or LNER
Edward

[chriswillis81]

Some fantastic replies guys, its really interesting to see what everyone else is thinking and you never know, maybe some route creators may have some brainwaves when reading this and make some of our dreams come true, but if not its always good to have a debate on whats hot and whats not so to speak

[gypbrc]

Tell you what I would really like to see; the full orbital LO route complete with 172 and 378.