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I'm brand new to TS2012 so I'm still feeling my way around. I have a problem with the 9F Mixed Delivery to Dumfries. The 16T mineral wagon is missing each time I load the scenario it but I can fix that, I think. One problem I don't know how to fix is the 'marker missing from Castle Douglas siding 5' and because of this it will not load up. I have other scenarios by Jack.Grave, thanks Jack, and absolutely no problems with them. Anyone out there had the same problem and managed to fix it?

Hi there,
and welcome to the forums.
I have the Steam version of "Port Road" but don't see the said scenario.
Which version of the route do you have?
The 16T mineral wagon could be part of the "bonus content", did you download that along with the 9F?, otherwise it might be from the UKTS freeware packs.
As for the marker, with not having the scenario, I can't help.

Chris.

Hi Levisham

First of all welcome to this forum.

Although it is a while back I seem to remember that there was a problem with the original scenario. Jack did an update to V2. Check if you have the original scenario or the V2 update here: http://www.uktrainsim.com/filelib-info. ... leid=24789

See if that works. If not just let us know.
Cheers
Jos

I have The Port Road (Steam version) and Port Road v3 just because I like it. The 9F scenario is UKTS 24789 v2.0 for the Steam version. The 16t mineral is in my rolling stock list as file no.18124 which is what is asked for on the 'read me' along with two other wagon files which must load OK because the dialogue box doesn't list them as AWOL. I can fiddle about and get them into the scenario each time, but better if they were there when I opened it, but the siding marker is the problem because I don't know how to fix it. I'll try uninstalling it tonight and then re-install after clearing the cache. Anyway, thanks for the welcome. Being a novice I'm sure to be here quite often asking dumb questions. I have a few other minor problems but one at a time.

Hi Levisham

I just reinstalled this scenario, as for some reason I did not have it in the current sim anymore. I did not have any problems with loading the sceanrio and just finished the first 2 wagon pick-ups from the sidings 1 & 2. So far so good. I will get back with you later this evening or tomorrow.
In the meantime please verify the following:

- Did you clear the cache after installing the scenario?
- Did you install all the required assets, and/or did you install the UKTS freepacks, especially the wagons pack? The free packs were not existing when this scenario was first available on UKTS, but you never know that some missing assets may be in the packs.
- Do you have RWTools installed? With RWTools it is easy to check missing assets etc.

This scenario should load w/o problem, but like I said I will get back with you later to see if I run in any problems running this scenario myself.
Jos

Last night I uninstalled and re-installed, and cleared the cache, and it still came up with the same error messages. I also verified my games with Steam again but that was no help. The wagons are there in the Kuju folder just like they should be. Only the one wagon is AWOL each time. I can get round this by editing the scenario and adding the wagon myself, save and open again. Then, I get this exact message: Driver '9F 92189 Std. Freight at Lat 54.94604 Long -3.92311 - missing marker - Castle Douglas goods siding 5, exactly as that. I have the assets listed in the readme but I have not got RWTools, you'll have to explain this to me, although I've seen it with it's 21 times free use before you need to get a license. Anyway, lucky old you. Can I come round to your house and play out the secenario?

Hi Levisham

Sorry to hear that the scenario still does not work for you. I almost finished it, sitting in the siding of Dumfries at the moment, but that does not help you.

The marker problem I have no clue yet, but as far as the mineral wagon is concerned I found that (using RW Tools) there are 2 different 16T minerals used in the scenario, the default version and the so called OLD BR 1 version that is available in UKTS as file 23163 here: http://members.uktrainsim.com/filelib-i ... leid=23163

Make sure that you have this one installed, if not download and install and see if that at least solves the 16T mineral issue.

I would also suggest that you download and install RWTools and try it 21 times for free. It is almost a standard tool for all of us RW-drivers and after the trial period, a donation will be required to get the license, which is well spent I can tell you.

Yes you could come and play at my house, but I'm afraid we may be a bit far apart

Cheers
Jos

Even further than you think. I live in Cyprus and I'm working in Abu Dhabi! Right, I've downloaded the wagon file and I will add it tonight and report back tomorrow. I downloaded RWTools today and will unzip it tonight, as well. I'm hoping that the 'missing wagon' could sort out the missing marker, fingers crossed. Thanks for your suggestions.

Hello Chris and Jos,
I downloaded RWTools and after a false start got it running. I've discovered that in many of the cases of missing stock in the scenarios RWTools displays a different path for the asset to actually where it is in my RS files. I don't want to move the files about because it will screw up other scenarios that work OK. An example is the 2P pack that I bought a few days ago, and it works fine, but when I try to use two 2P scenarios from UKTS they cannot find the loco or the tender. When I checked the scenario for missing assets the path shown by RWTools shows it located somewhere else to where it actually is. Without me having to read and understand RWTools is there an easy/simple way to substitute the correct path so that the scenario can access the file or change the rolling stock item, if I need to, of the AWOL wagons?
And I'm still frustrated by the missing siding marker in the 9F scenario. If anyone else has a suggestion ton resolve it I'll give it a go,

Regards, John.

Hi John

Good to hear you got RWTools working. Now you do not want to change the file structure of RS2012, but you can swap rolling stock in a scenario using RWTools. As for the 2P pack, that was upgraded a while ago, and may well have a slightly different (and expanded) file structure than before. If the UKTS scenarios that you want to use are fairly old, the scenario would possibly try to find assets in places where they originally were. So go ahead and 'swap' the 2P loco and tender in RWTools, even if you seem to swap for the exact same item and name. That will point the scenario to the new file location (hope you know what I mean).

Did the 16T mineral issue resolve itself now with the OLD BR1 file I gave you? As far as the marker problem is concerned I do not know the reason or the solution for it. I have been able to complete the scenario w/o a problem. My suggestion at this point would be to download the scenario again from UKTS, delete the one you have installed now and re install the fresh download. Little change of success but perhaps worth a try. Other suggestion would be to contact Jack.Grave with a private message (PM) in this forum and ask him to check it out for you. I have not seen anything new from him in a while but he should see your message or a notification for it through his email.

For now, regards and good luck.
Jos

Jos,
I spent all evening going through as many scenarios as I could to see why they didn't work and most of them have missing stock and a few have broken consists. I know that all the missing items are there because I checked and double checked. The path that the Asset File is using must be different from their actual path. RWTools should be able to fix this once I understand how to use it after reading the helpme pdf manual. As for the marker in the 9F scenarion, can RWTools position it for me as the Lat and Long are given for the marker in the reason for not loading the scenario? With the wagon, I unlocked the scenario and picked the wagon from the list and put it in myself. Since then, when I try to load the scenario the only message I get is about the marker. I've already uninstalled and re-installed a few times and then I get two reasons for not loading, the marker and the wagon, again! I'm going to have to get to grips with RWTools sooner rather than later and sort out these problems.
Mike Simpson asks for a donation to get a license for RWTools, what is the going rate?

Many a steam locomotive driver has had a tender moment,
Regards, John.

Hi John

Some of the problems with the scenarios have to do with the upgrading of Railworks to RS2012. Broken Consists are normally resolved the easy way by clicking 'edit' on the screen that shows 'Broken Consists'. In the editor you do nothing but click on the orange arrow in the bottom right-hand corner. When the window to save changes appears click 'yes' to save. In most cases your broken consists are gone
I am at work and not at my RW home PC but RW tools, for the simpler actions that is, is fairly easy to understand. For swapping of rolling stock (assets) you click on the "Edit Scenario" tab. On the next split screen you click on the route in the top screen and the scenarios for the route will appear in the bottom screen. Click/highlight the scenario you want to edit. After a little while you will get a new window that has all information for the scenario. The consists are in the left-middle top area; when you highlight one of them, all assets that are in the consist show next to it: right middle top area. The asset you want to swap you highlight, then go to the area at the bottom right where you see your RW file folder tree. Go find 'assets' click on it and you will see all the subfolders from the different asset developers, s.a Kuju, DT, RSC, RSDL etc. and find the folder your desired asset is in. For example the 16T mineral "OLD BR1", since this is a reskin of the default wagon, you will find in the Kuju folder. Go as far as needed into the folder, at least till you find the 'railvehicles' folder, and if more than one asset in this folder, click on the asset folder itself. For example '16T mineral'. Make sure you click on the type of asset in the filter screen directly above the RW folder tree screen, click for example 'freight' and click on search (at least that is what I think this is called; out of my head/not at my pc) You will see the available assets appear that are in the folder with the filter applied (in the example, all 'freight' assets). Next step is you highlight the item you want to swap AND the item that you want to replace it with. Then click the SWAP button from the action buttons in the middle, either for this one item or 'for each consist'. Try it out. This is only meant as a guideline to make it easier (I hope ) to get you started. As I said, I write this all out of memory, not being at my PC, so some of the wordings in RWTools may be a bit different.
There is no going rate for the donation, but Mike Simpson does not accept a donation below $2.00. I think I donated $10,00 which is well worth the money for me.

Good luck/have fun
Jos

Jos,
I'm not lucky. This is the third time I've written this message because it appears to keep timing out. So, all I have to do to fix a broken consist is open the scenarion, wait for the dialogue box with EDIT & EXIT and click on EDIT, then click on the arrow at the bottom RH corner of the screen. Does the scenario have to be locked or unlocked? If you can give me a step by step guide to swapping rolling stock assets it would be a big help to me. Just think of me as an idiot. I know I'm a pain in the butt, but I need to get up to speed with TS2012 asap so I can enjoy it fully with out any errors etc. I'm going to have a go at placing the marker in the 9F scenarion this weekend using the editor in TS2012 as Mike from RWTools said his prog will not load up any missing markers. Wish me luck!

Regards, John.

Hi John

Yes that is how the broken consists should go away that are caused by compatibilty issues with the new version of Railworks, aka RS2012. 'Real' broken consists would not be resolved this way though. But try this first and you'll be surprised how often this does the trick.

As for step-by-step guide to swap rolling stock, I gave you sort of a guidance already for this in my last post; try this first and let me know if it works. If you have problems let me know too. Don't forget to clear the cache after you swap rolling stock/assets.

I will be interested to know if you can resolve the marker issue. I have not touched such areas in the sim yet. However, it still puzzles me why you have this problem at all.

Greets
Jos

Jos,
This is the voice of inexperience talking here. There are two files with the same title as above, one is UKTS 23987 for Port Road v3 and the other is UKTS 24789 for Port Road DLC, so I unistalled both and then re-installed them. Then I looked through all the additional freeware that I installed for the scenarios in the Kuju wagons folder and discovered that the Grey_Van UKTS 18133 was in the wrong part of the Kuju folder. I put into the correct folder. Then I opened both scenarios and the missing marker errors had disappeared, and both scenarios are working OK. So, now I can drive the same 9F on both versions of The Port Road. I wonder if this is the same fix for the marker errors I am getting for the scenario in Leafy Suburbs?

Regards, John.