almark wrote:The replaced the 141's round here (God they were awful!),still operate my local service today on a regular basis. (Wakefield-Knottingley)
Your 141/142's not only "were awful", they ARE awful because I think we must have got all your horrible old 141's down here in Torquay where they are now the mainstay of all our local services!!
So thank you very much indeed

You will be pleased to learn that First Great Western have recovered the seats in Blue but have failed to add any extra padding . in fact the thought struck me yesterday as I bounced and lurched my way to Newton Abbot in one that they must take the prize for the most uncomfortable form of Public Transport ever!! The bitter cold draught from the leaky doors, the noise, the sickening motion and being crammed in five to a bench can only be equal to the conditions experienced by 3rd Class passengers in the Victorian age!!!!

Although I have no doubt that the Victorian trains were at least reliable. When you get on a 141 at Torquay it's always touch and go as to whether it's going to make it to Exeter without breaking down!!!! Folk shun and avoid them. There is a collective audible sigh of despair from passengers on the platform when their train rolls in and they see it's a 141!!
John A