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Hmmm, well, I've made a complete dog's breakfast of this, I installed everything, went into the scenario provided and Newcastle Station was as black as ink....... :lol: I'm sure the Geordies are aware of electricity by now, I've tried it in both my cloned route and the original map. Do I need to install the scenario first before the lighting pack, or, doesn't that make any difference ???

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Install the lights.
Install the scenario.
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RussellW wrote:I don't know if you are aware, but the station lights have also been applied to Hagen-Siegen, and the BR101 loco has RW3 lights/wipers.
If you run the scenario Sleep Tight (change the weather to something with rain first, eg RW_Cloudy_Showers) you should get a nice surprise.
Hagen-Siegen isn't quite completely lit - Siegen, end canopies at Hagen, and yards are not lit, but it is 99%.
Richard, why did you hide your light under a bushel?
Also the carriage lights are on.
On the pack scenario they're in darkness, anyone know why this should be?
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Well, I've managed to get into the scenario and the station lights are ON and very nice Newcastle looks, however, having entered the cab of 47470, there is no needle on the speedometer dial, how does one drive it at night, is this inherent of these Class 47's since RW3 was released???

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TransportSteve wrote:Well, I've managed to get into the scenario and the station lights are ON and very nice Newcastle looks, however, having entered the cab of 47470, there is no needle on the speedometer dial, how does one drive it at night, is this inherent of these Class 47's since RW3 was released???

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I already have that asset, but, as a locomotive driver you are not allowed to drive with the interior cablights on when you're on Britain's railways, as an ex-railwayman it was written in the BRB rulebook for all drivers, secondmen and guards. Just as much as you are not allowed to drive your car in the dark with your interior light on, it's against the law in this country, I don't know what the law stipulates over there in Canada, though.

Thanks for the help anyway, Vernon.

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I think we have the same laws here. I just use the f5 display :wink: .
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So you need instrument lighting rather than cab lighting. A number of payware items have this built in...
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phat2003uk wrote:Steve

They should in theory be automatically applied to the cloned route as that clone will still reference the same objects which have this lighting implemented. :)
Not only do the lights go on in cloned routes, they even go on for me in the Port Road and the South Devon Banks routes!

Call me impressed, very impressed! And a very happy customer -- this pack makes TSX what it's supposed to be! :-)

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Kromaatikse wrote:So you need instrument lighting rather than cab lighting. A number of payware items have this built in...
That is correct, Sir, thanks, I think I will swap the locomotive used by Richard for something else.

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tnleeuw01 wrote:
Not only do the lights go on in cloned routes, they even go on for me in the Port Road and the South Devon Banks routes!
As much as that is very impressive for an end user such as yourself, I am now beginning to realise this is going to cause no end of problems.

If I have used any of the canopies/stations in any forthcoming routes that Richard has modified with child objects, when I release these routes, for anyone with the lighting pack installed, there are going to be lights where I didn't intend there to be lights, or they are going to clash with any lighting that I have added making it too bright and completely destroying the ambience, which was the idea in the first place.
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Darpor wrote: As much as that is very impressive for an end user such as yourself, I am now beginning to realise this is going to cause no end of problems.

If I have used any of the canopies/stations in any forthcoming routes that Richard has modified with child objects, when I release these routes, for anyone with the lighting pack installed, there are going to be lights where I didn't intend there to be lights, or they are going to clash with any lighting that I have added making it too bright and completely destroying the ambience, which was the idea in the first place.
That then does kind of come back to my earlier point which I perhaps should have been more direct about, i.e. why did RSC not take the opportunity to revamp the default routes with station lighting at time of release?

Or if that *is* in the plan, then when?

As I said before, Richard's the smart cookie here as he's taken advantage of what I see as a missed opportunity on RSC's part :-?

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Wikkus wrote:
Darpor wrote: As much as that is very impressive for an end user such as yourself, I am now beginning to realise this is going to cause no end of problems.

If I have used any of the canopies/stations in any forthcoming routes that Richard has modified with child objects, when I release these routes, for anyone with the lighting pack installed, there are going to be lights where I didn't intend there to be lights, or they are going to clash with any lighting that I have added making it too bright and completely destroying the ambience, which was the idea in the first place.
That then does kind of come back to my earlier point which I perhaps should have been more direct about, i.e. why did RSC not take the opportunity to revamp the default routes with station lighting at time of release?

Or if that *is* in the plan, then when?

As I said before, Richard's the smart cookie here as he's taken advantage of what I see as a missed opportunity on RSC's part :-?

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I think the issue is less about what's been done to default routes and more about what has been done to third party routes. Imagine as one example, somebody lovingly recreating an abandoned station platform on their own route using default assets, then suddenly finding it brilliantly lit up at night upon installing the AP pack

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Yes, thats more what I mean Rik, not the fact that Richard has gone and lit up the default routes, I am not against that and it does look wonderful. I am more concerned about the assets themselves, and the child objects added to them which cause the further implications I outlined above.

The issue splits both ways I guess, and not just for me. I envisage some people may build a route and have already bought Richard's pack, see that their assets are lit and than not add any lights. That automatically leaves anyone without the pack in the dark (pun intended :D ) Other guys may not have the pack and add their own lighting, ending up with the issue I mentioned above about the double lighting effect.

Not sure what the solution is really, other than put a disclaimer on my routes that if the end user has the pack installed, any blinding light effects are not my fault. I am certainly not going to go around and remove all of my lighting upgrades that would render the route pitch black for anyone without the pack.
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Darpor wrote:
tnleeuw01 wrote:
Not only do the lights go on in cloned routes, they even go on for me in the Port Road and the South Devon Banks routes!
As much as that is very impressive for an end user such as yourself, I am now beginning to realise this is going to cause no end of problems.

If I have used any of the canopies/stations in any forthcoming routes that Richard has modified with child objects, when I release these routes, for anyone with the lighting pack installed, there are going to be lights where I didn't intend there to be lights, or they are going to clash with any lighting that I have added making it too bright and completely destroying the ambience, which was the idea in the first place.
Seconded Darren,
This is already causing me issues... :-?
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