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Re: Class 47 cab issue

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As mentioned in the topic 'backups' the same problem arises with re-skins of the Class 166. This, to put it mildly, is most unfortunate. To make things worse, the new textures for the Class 166 are 2048x2048 which makes re-skins to large to be converted from DDS format to TgPcDx format with RW-Tools. If you have been fortunate enough to have seen Derek's warning (I did not) and saved your RWCore files, presumably a lot of work will be required to change the bin and probably the geopcdx files. I wonder if it is worth the extra hassle.

I have been a strong supporter of RailWorks since the original RailSimulator was published, and have spent a lot of my spare time both building routes, railvehicles and assets since 2009, but I must
say that at this moment I feel very dispirited and to an extent let down by this new up-date. I really wish there was a possibility to return to RW2. I can do without cab sway and can live with stencil shadows.

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Re: Class 47 cab issue

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Turn off "TSX" this will fix the issue for reskins.
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Re: Class 47 cab issue

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Okay so we can turn off TSX.

However, like many, I backed up my 47, 166 and SD40-2 folders before updating to 2012.

Big question is; What do I do with them now?
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Re: Class 47 cab issue

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I had this problem with the new 47 and the ap soundpack plus 2 tone horn patch installed, What i did was verify cache then reinstall the new ap soundpack but did not install the 2 tone horn patch, New 47 works fine now
Can confirm that this worked for me also, . :D ...not even the default class 47 would work before i did this fix, :crazyeyes:

I did a verify cache ( took about 15-20 mins ) reinstalled all AP Soundpacks except the Class 47 and all the default ones are now working as advertised ie: rain on window etc etc ....

Like the other guys have said , i dont know what to do with all the reskins i have , I think maybe i will delete them all and start from scratch with RW3 , as it would appear that the fixes for the reskins may not be worth it :o ( i have a backup of RW2 on 2 drives from the 22nd Sept )

Cheers all , and thanks for the advice

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Re: Class 47 cab issue

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Brian

Just to mention it again, the Class 47 Sound Pack has been fixed so you should be able to install it without any issues.
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jimmyshand wrote:so far all others are 'duff' :wink:
Aaah, duff duffs, how ironic. :wink:

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Re: Class 47 cab issue

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the Class 47 Sound Pack has been fixed so you should be able to install it without any issues.
Thanks Richard.....Quick work again .....nice one

Keep those Excellent Sound Packs Comin Brother....They Def make all the difference (well , to me they do )

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Re: Class 47 cab issue

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No problem, it's important to get these issues nailed early on! :)
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Re: Class 47 cab issue

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I have the same problem, backed up all my files but now it seems that the old files are the problem, is there a way of copying the new cab file or geo file to the old reskins would this work or would i be wasting my time trying
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Re: Class 47 cab issue

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Bear in mind that I haven't actually done this yet, so this a bit theoretical

Copy the folder ...Kuju/RailSimulator/RailVehicles/Diesel/Class47/Default/CabView from your back up to your "live" RW installation; rename it to CabView2 or similar. The actual name shouldn't be important as long as it makes sense to you

Open the .bin file for the reskin you wish to change

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					<InteriorInterface>
						<cControlContainerBlueprint-cInteriorInterface>
							<InteriorGeometryID d:type="cDeltaString">Kuju\RailSimulator\RailVehicles\Diesel\Class47\Default\CabView\[00]class47_cab</InteriorGeometryID>
							<NumberOfCabs d:type="cDeltaString">eDoubleCab</NumberOfCabs>
							<InteriorCamera>
								<iBlueprintLibrary-cAbsoluteBlueprintID>
									<BlueprintSetID>
										<iBlueprintLibrary-cBlueprintSetID>
											<Provider d:type="cDeltaString">Kuju</Provider>
											<Product d:type="cDeltaString">RailSimulator</Product>
										</iBlueprintLibrary-cBlueprintSetID>
									</BlueprintSetID>
									<BlueprintID d:type="cDeltaString">RailVehicles\Diesel\Class47\Default\CabView\Class 47 Cab camera.xml</BlueprintID>
								</iBlueprintLibrary-cAbsoluteBlueprintID>
							</InteriorCamera>
>
So that it points to your renamed CabView folder, e.g.
Kuju\RailSimulator\RailVehicles\Diesel\Class47\Default\CabView\[00]class47_cab
becomes
Kuju\RailSimulator\RailVehicles\Diesel\Class47\Default\CabView2\[00]class47_cab
If I've figured this out correctly, Robert's your mother's brother :D

Bear in mind that this would need to be done for each reskin you wish to alter, but it should be a "one time" operation as the affected files will no longer be looked at by Steam

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Re: Class 47 cab issue

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Well I've saved my class 47 folder to a safe place on a different drive and copied the default class 47 folder from my test machine, ( W8 with only the default RW3 ) over to the main PC.
This gives me six default engines to use for the time being until hopefully this issue gets sorted.
I can swap out other 47's as required with RW Tools and use default ones.
Looking at the new 47, IMHO something just doesn't look right and I would prefer to use the old ones, and why do they have the stupid looking white/grey wall wheels?
OK, the sounds are great, but that's about it for me, so please RSC, can I have my RW2 back? I can live without all the fancy new bits.
( I don't remember ever seeing white wall wheels when we used to shunt the bitumen tanks into Croda at Kilnhurst at 5 am. :-? :lol: )

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Re: Class 47 cab issue

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Copy the folder ...Kuju/RailSimulator/RailVehicles/Diesel/Class47/Default/CabView from your back up to your "live" RW installation; rename it to CabView2 or similar. The actual name shouldn't be important as long as it makes sense to you
I've come at this making the assumption that at the moment, I'm far more likely to want to drive a 'legacy repaint' than the default 47. On this basis, I did the following (whilst hopefully awaiting a permanent fix from RSDL):

1. Renamed 'live' CabView folder in ...Kuju/RailSimulator/RailVehicles/Diesel/Class47/Default/ to 'CabViewNew'
2. Copied ...Kuju/RailSimulator/RailVehicles/Diesel/Class47/Default/CabView from back up to "live" RW installation

The only downside to this I can see is that the new rain feature is not enabled (I've tested the 'new' default 47 after this modification and it seemed to be working OK otherwise). I had a similar problem with HST repaints and resolved it in the same way.

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Re: Class 47 cab issue

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After producing such a great new class 47 with much better graphics and rain effects just wondering why the cabview is still the same dull one the gauges in the cab could have had a facelift to match the enhanced loco. the cabview gauges are very dated now and i was looking forward to this being revamped as well.
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Re: Class 47 cab issue

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Can I just confirm my issue with the cabview is the same as what everyone else is getting? I'm trying to verify it is just reskins affected and not defaults too.

It appears that the cabview is inset within another cabview and when you try to pan left or right the view ahead goes all 'techno' and it also appears the cab is pointing skyward?!!

Sorry I can't post a screenshot because I'm at work!
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Re: Class 47 cab issue

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Sorry to bump this, but I have this problem on an activity with WCML North, which was updated for TS2012, surely this is not correct?

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