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Nevertheless, they must take on an element of responsibility when they accept something for sale through official channels. Don't forget not so long ago there was talk of content receiving some kind of "RSC Approved" certification, which would to me mean emphatically that it guaranteed a certain level of quality. I'm not saying the P42 is a poor add-on, far from it it's actually very nice and if I had the patience I wouldn't mind putting together a little US route to give it somewhere else to stretch its legs, but accepting and putting on sale something that fails on a basic level (scenarios that don't complete, state of the cab not saved) is a rather poor show (IMHO).sundog wrote:I think this DLC was produced by G-Trax and DTM, and it's only marketed by RSC. Not pointing any fingers, I just thought it might be prudent to point this out as RSC seem to be getting a bit of stick regarding the NEC route at the moment. Maybe they can't be blamed for everything
micaelcorleone wrote:I'm the developer of both SanB-Barstow sceanrios. I'm sorry that some of you have problems.bigvern wrote:Last night I encountered one of the "Scenario Failed" messages due to an AI train leaving it's path (I'm assuming this is because the scenario writer pathed it over hand points). Did no one either at the developer or RSC run this scenario to check it and why have we not seen a patch as yet?
The problem with QA is that this error only occurs on some systems. We've tested it a lot and everytime it ran without problem. It seems to be a random issue.
However, I think I found a fix. Will be released soon on: http://gtraxsims.com/ It will laos be released over Steam when the loco gets an update for RW3.
This is a known issue. It seems that if you press q while reloading a scenario avoids the application of the emergency brake. No fix for this, yet. Sorry.bigvern wrote:It also appears the P42 will not reload as is from a saved scenarios. On each occasion I have reloaded a saved run the train has immediately gone into emergency applying the brakes and putting the direction lever in neutral. You cannot recover until the train has completely stopped and then reset everything. Surely a basic tenet of beta testing anything is how it performs when you reload a saved game. RSC are getting a lot of money for this stuff, it's not freeware and it needs to be right at these prices.
What is "an age"? If it's about 15-20s I'd accept that - that's what UK passenger brakes take for a full release. If it's longer than that there might be issues.Wikkus wrote:Anyone else finding the train brakes take an age to bail off?
Rik.
On the Ridin' the Chief Scenario, we drive about an hour, then we arrive at a double red signal and get hit by a freight train The BNSF #8340 Refr.bigvern wrote:Last night I encountered one of the "Scenario Failed" messages due to an AI train leaving it's path (I'm assuming this is because the scenario writer pathed it over hand points).
I also saw that... It seems that the scenario is reloaded with alerter in Emergency Stop.bigvern wrote:It also appears the P42 will not reload as is from a saved scenarios. On each occasion I have reloaded a saved run the train has immediately gone into emergency applying the brakes and putting the direction lever in neutral. You cannot recover until the train has completely stopped and then reset everything.
I quote myself (do you call it requoting?GenesisMan wrote:(...)
On the Ridin' the Chief Scenario, we drive about an hour, then we arrive at a double red signal and get hit by a freight train The BNSF #8340 Refr.
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I also saw that... It seems that the scenario is reloaded with alerter in Emergency Stop.
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Again sorry for the problems with the scenario, but it seems to be a random issue. Actually, it's a fault of the Railworks dispatcher.micaelcorleone wrote:(...)
I'm the developer of both SanB-Barstow scenarios. I'm sorry that some of you have problems.
The problem with QA is that this error only occurs on some systems. We've tested it a lot and everytime it ran without problem. It seems to be a random issue.
However, I think I found a fix. Will be released soon on: http://gtraxsims.com/ It will also be released over Steam when the loco gets an update for RW3.
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This is a known issue. It seems that if you press q while reloading a scenario avoids the application of the emergency brake. No fix for this, yet. Sorry.
gtraxsims.com wrote:The following updates are currently planned. Steam subscribers will automatically receive these updates.
- The Genesis Pack will be updated to take advantage of new features that will become available upon the release of RailWorks 3: Train Simulator 2012.
- Three scenarios are included with the Genesis Pack: two for the Barstow to San Bernardino route and one for the Castle Rock route. Now that the Northeast Corridor route has been released, additional scenarios will be provided for that route. Watch the Products - Scenarios page for information.
- The "VIA Rail" version of the P42DC lacks VIA Rail logos. As soon as permission is obtained from VIA Rail, an updated model with complete logos will be provided.
The following discrepancies, bugs, problems or "just feel like complaining" items have been reported. Those of us who put this project together will make every effort to address these items and we appreciate any help you can provide to resolve them.
- Emergency brake is applied upon resumption of saved scenario.
- Audio issues:
Some say the exterior P42DC audio is too loud, others not loud enough.
Some say the exterior Superliner audio is too loud, others not loud enough.
Some say the cab and passenger view audio is not loud enough. I think we can all agree it's supposed to be quieter inside the train than outside, and it is. The question is how much? Actual attenuation figures in dB would be a real help.
Some say the sounds aren't realistic. If that's the case, what is? And do you know of a good alternate sound source? That is, sound files that are free of clicks, pops, background noise or other ambient noise. I can tell you there are not many
of them available
If you have an opinion about these issues I'd love to hear from you, but be prepared to authenticate your statements. Provide references, internet links, or other corroborated data. Terms like "too loud" or "not realistic" don't mean much
without authentication.
- Partial lack of compatibility with Raildriver.
Okay, from about 68% on the HUD which is just shy of "Suppression" with the following readings on the HUD (bear in mind, there are no working in-cab brake gauges...) :Kariban wrote:What is "an age"? If it's about 15-20s I'd accept that - that's what UK passenger brakes take for a full release. If it's longer than that there might be issues.Wikkus wrote:Anyone else finding the train brakes take an age to bail off?
Rik.
I appreciate the point, however, the real issue (for me) is the starting state of "emergency". Any clues as to how to make it less, e.g. 50%, maybe?Kariban wrote:If it was a mile long freight you're probably talking in minutes before the rear end gets released. That seems a little long from a european perspective, but it might be right, who knows. A minute to release from emergency isn't totally unbelieveable.
I think changing the default value of the TrainBrakeControl ( try .75 instead of 0 ) will do it.Wikkus wrote:I appreciate the point, however, the real issue (for me) is the starting state of "emergency". Any clues as to how to make it less, e.g. 50%, maybe?Kariban wrote:If it was a mile long freight you're probably talking in minutes before the rear end gets released. That seems a little long from a european perspective, but it might be right, who knows. A minute to release from emergency isn't totally unbelieveable.
Rik.