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Re: Class 421 4CIG - Coming Soon

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 10:19 am
by RSPaul
What a great thread, I commuted to and from london for 7 years in the early eighties and sometimes the run down Sole bank from Sole Street to the curve in Strood had my hair standing on end.
Want to recreate that one day I can tell you!
Paul

Re: Class 421 4CIG - Coming Soon

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 11:31 am
by transadelaide
RSPaul wrote:What a great thread, I commuted to and from london for 7 years in the early eighties and sometimes the run down Sole bank from Sole Street to the curve in Strood had my hair standing on end.
Want to recreate that one day I can tell you!
Paul
That shouldn't be a problem making that happen. Even if you tell the professionals to make it for you and they mutiny, you'll still have all the same route building tools available as everybody else! :D

Re: Class 421 4CIG - Coming Soon

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 12:23 pm
by yerkes
transadelaide wrote:
RSPaul wrote:What a great thread, I commuted to and from london for 7 years in the early eighties and sometimes the run down Sole bank from Sole Street to the curve in Strood had my hair standing on end.
Want to recreate that one day I can tell you!
Paul
That shouldn't be a problem making that happen.
Unless you're balding :)

For what it's worth, my equivalent experiences are of riding in the 2HAP which regularly formed part of six-/ten-coach workings between Waterloo and Guildford in the 80s and early 90s. Would love to recreate some happy memories of lively rides on the highly-spring seats.

Re: Class 421 4CIG - Coming Soon

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 3:15 pm
by justgeoff
While we're reminiscing, let's not forget the last days of the 4CORS when drivers were determined to get the maximum out of them before they were withdrawn.
Apologies to you youngsters who never experienced them, you'll never know what you missed!

Geoff

Re: Class 421 4CIG - Coming Soon

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 3:21 pm
by RSPaul
I missed them and regret it:-( Now THATS something I would like to have for Portsmouth..... we have no plans!

Re: Class 421 4CIG - Coming Soon

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 3:33 pm
by justgeoff
RSPaul wrote:I missed them and regret it:-( Now THATS something I would like to have for Portsmouth..... we have no plans!
Ultimately I'm sure you will have. I keep dropping heavy hints to a Canadian friend of mine who made a wonderful range of models for MSTS but he is heavily involved in his own route building for some time to come, so don't hold your breath!

Geoff

Re: Class 421 4CIG - Coming Soon

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 5:15 pm
by nsupersonic
justgeoff wrote:While we're reminiscing, let's not forget the last days of the 4CORS when drivers were determined to get the maximum out of them before they were withdrawn.
Apologies to you youngsters who never experienced them, you'll never know what you missed!

Geoff

I remember them! - They really seemed to go like a bat out of hell!

Charles :D

Re: Class 421 4CIG - Coming Soon

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 5:19 pm
by yerkes
nsupersonic wrote:
justgeoff wrote:While we're reminiscing, let's not forget the last days of the 4CORS when drivers were determined to get the maximum out of them before they were withdrawn.
Apologies to you youngsters who never experienced them, you'll never know what you missed!

Geoff

I remember them! - They really seemed to go like a bat out of hell!

Charles :D
Nice to be called a youngster - thanks :D And yes, I do wish I had known the CORs, and the BILs and BELs and HALs and LAVs...

Re: Class 421 4CIG - Coming Soon

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 6:12 pm
by steve1023
yerkes wrote: I commuted to and from london for 7 years in the For what it's worth, my equivalent experiences are of riding in the 2HAP which regularly formed part of six-/ten-coach workings between Waterloo and Guildford in the 80s and early 90s. Would love to recreate some happy memories of lively rides on the highly-spring seats.
Similarily I remember enjoying the HAPs on the coastway west route in the late 70s & early 80s. Loved those little units. I always prefered them more than anything else. If they were paired up with a CIG or VEP I always made my mum go in the HAP. Then they moved away. :(

Re: Class 421 4CIG - Coming Soon

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 4:53 pm
by nsupersonic
http://www.facebook.com/railsimulator?s ... eTheater=1

Update shots on 4CIG - see above link

Regards
Charles :D

ps. OUT 14th JULY according to rs.com

Re: Class 421 4CIG - Coming Soon

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 4:56 pm
by Tankski
RSC Facebook wrote:Once a very familiar sight across the railways of southern England, the 4CIG electric multiple unit is a classic example of the heritage ‘slam-door’ passenger trains which once formed the backbone of southern passenger services. Extensive 3rd-rail electrification of the Southern Region led to the widespread adoption of these practical EMUs, and the 4CIG (British Rail Class 421) was initially introduced on the London-Brighton Line before being pressed into service on the Portsmouth Direct Line between London Waterloo and Portsmouth Harbour. The 4CIG units received a facelift in the late 1980s, and were eventually withdrawn from mainline passenger service in the early 2000s.

The 4CIG for RailWorks 2 includes BR Blue/Grey and Network Southeast liveries and 5 scenarios. PLEASE NOTE that you will need the Portsmouth Direct Line Expansion Pack in order to play the scenarios included with the 4CIG Add-On.
Guess I'll get a list of liveries to do (or correct!) if there's only 2 included, but release date is for Friday week for those wondering.

Must say it looks great now in game but the headlamp does take the realism away (my only picky point)

Re: Class 421 4CIG - Coming Soon

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 5:08 pm
by crumplezone
Doesn't look to bad at all and the liveries seem to have been applied nicely, surprised only two liveries been worked on but I suppose they are busy with all there other projects, not even my beloved King class has had any photos yet. Should be nice to pop alongside the 445/8 in SWT which was released recently, I hope with the CIG we'll see some more scenarios for Portsmouth.

I'll also like to say that I think its quite nice of RS.com to cover the EMUs quite quickly instead of being a very long time later, it should garner abit more attention and interesting in the route beyond when it was released.

Re: Class 421 4CIG - Coming Soon

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 5:11 pm
by Varney
Are we allowed to make comments about the model and it's liveries?

Re: Class 421 4CIG - Coming Soon

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 5:13 pm
by Tankski
Varney wrote:Are we allowed to make comments about the model and it's liveries?
Nothing saying you can't, just make sure you don't mention the guy who made it. ;)

Re: Class 421 4CIG - Coming Soon

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 5:36 pm
by Varney
Tankski wrote:
Varney wrote:Are we allowed to make comments about the model and it's liveries?
Nothing saying you can't, just make sure you don't mention the guy who made it. ;)
Cool, I hope it's okay then to make the following observations...

(I understand that these are probably WIP shots, so may not represent the finished item.)

My initial thoughts are it's looking good but maybe the bodyshape is a little to rounded, something's not quite right about it. I appreciate it's a hard prototype to model, it's not a criticism of the work that has gone into it. :wink: (The cab windows also need to follow the body profile.)

I don't recall ever seeing a unit with yellow painted axle covers, I think they would be better in black.

The liveries look nice, however I'm not convinced by the yellow used on the ends, maybe it's just the lighting. Also, there are no 1st class markings shown on either livery.

The blue/grey livery is great but would not originally had the top of the ends painted in black (shame there are no orange curtains too).

NSE is also missing branding, but I suspect that is to come.

I hope that a BIG unit will be released too, so we can have the correct 12 car formation. :wink: