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deadly wrote:I thought those switchers looked familiar. I know one reskin that would seriously tempt this UK simmer: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:NASA_ ... tive_3.jpg

It's a whole route that would be interesting, not just the locomotives!

Good morning everyone
Here is footage of interest
Kind regards Stephen
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOrNU2TFDTo

Very reminiscent of an Irish Railways (CIE) old Class 121 loco, in fact I suspect they were probably derived from that design. Certainly sounds the same, ah - Rosslare to Dublin on a proper train.

Kariban wrote:If all you want is an on/off loco brake, use the handbrake key.

How realistic would that be, lol?

Well, what are you expecting out of a keyboard interface? it's either over-sensitive for normal use, or not sensitive enough for what you're after. And they all use the same brake shoes anyway, eh.

Kariban wrote:Well, what are you expecting out of a keyboard interface?

What I’m expecting (or in this case hoping for some day from RailWorks) is a realistic simulation of the air brake system on a North American locomotive, which has nothing to do with “keyboard interface”.

And they all use the same brake shoes anyway, eh.

Right, but completely different ways of applying force and controlling those brake shoes.

So a US loco brake is a digital device? ie a switch?

Kariban wrote:So a US loco brake is a digital device? ie a switch?

Who said it was a digital device or switch?

I'm asking. Keyboards can't do anything but on or off ( whether you set a state directly or turn on an increase or decrease ), so I'm asking how a device that you can model prototypically using a keyboard actually works. I don't know, I've never been inside a US diesel, hence the question.

A digital device is one that has discrete steps; don't confuse it with solid state. A switch is a digital device that has a certain number of discrete steps.

Kariban wrote:I'm asking. Keyboards can't do anything but on or off ( whether you set a state directly or turn on an increase or decrease ), so I'm asking how a device that you can model prototypically using a keyboard actually works. I don't know, I've never been inside a US diesel, hence the question.

I must not have been clear with my comparison to how Trainz handles the application and release of the independent brake with the keyboard.

With Trainz you hit the E key and the brake cylinder pressure on the locomotive quickly increases to its highest pressure. Hitting the E key again releases it; you can also release it before it completely reaches full pressure.

Right, thanks. That might be possible to do with a custom keymapper, if not it's a pretty easy thing to do if someone feels like doing a tiny bit of scripting.

So you mean a button that immediately sets a lever to full/released ? That can be scripted or mapped can't it?
(Edit: Posted same time as Kariban)

Kariban wrote:Right, thanks. That might be possible to do with a custom keymapper, if not it's a pretty easy thing to do if someone feels like doing a tiny bit of scripting.

Maybe, but the problem of how RailWorks simulates the independent brake with NA locomotives will still be an issue.

Well, consider I know how an airbrake system works but I don't know how a NA loco install works; explain what's wrong please?

Kariban wrote:Well, consider I know how an airbrake system works but I don't know how a NA loco install works; explain what's wrong please?

Like most of the NA equipment the independent brake seems to be a little too weak and as I mentioned before for some reason it seems to hang too long with a full application after it has been fully released.