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Railworks Default Routes

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With regards to routes such as London > Oxford i do feel they lack land marks that are maybe well know. I do recall some while back going to london and could see the Post Office Tower from the line... i am sure you can see it. But i feel the routes themselves need modernizing with new scnery and improved buildings etc. I think also things like the old grey track ballast does not work very well and really needs to be replaced.

Is there anything being done by RSC to improve the look and feel of the routes?

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I've actually been wondering if a project to upgrade some of the default textures wouldn't be a bad idea, might be a nice community effort too. Ofc this wouldn't upgrade the route models, but without cloning there's not much we can do about that ( and I think someone's cloned and is upgrading Ox-Padd ). Maybe if it got upgraded it could turn into Bristol-Padd ;). You're right though, the S&D could do with a bit of love too.

Is it me or is Paddington station a bit short? I suspect this has been discussed before...
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Nath over on RWTS has been updating this route and doing a very good job of it not sure if or when he will release it though.
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TheTazman wrote:With regards to routes such as London > Oxford i do feel they lack land marks that are maybe well know. I do recall some while back going to london and could see the Post Office Tower from the line... i am sure you can see it. But i feel the routes themselves need modernizing with new scnery and improved buildings etc.
Isn't this a result of the "distant mountains" limitation in RW? i.e. not being able to see major landmarks. Even if major London landmarks were modelled and included in the route, would RW bother drawing them, unless you've gone so far through the buffers at Paddington that you find yourself in Belgravia? I know what you mean though, there's certainly a sensation when arriving that there's actually nothing beyond Paddington station.

I agree with the state of the default routes, they're really showing their age, as is the stock. I recall Derek mentioning that they were planning on re-doing some of the default stock to more modern standards, but don't remember whether routes were mentioned, but either way I wouldn't hold your breath as we're still waiting for updates on numerous pieces of DLC. Look at the new Mk1 carriage introduced with the Falmouth branch. Surely this new model should have been used as replacement for the default Mk1 (maybe it will, in time?) rather than exclusive to DLC. The default Mk2s look particularly miserable and dated with their low poly count, heavily mip-mapped textures, and lack of detail, especially when lined up against Digital Traction's Mk1 and Mk2e coaches.

But I must admit that if it's a question of competing resources (as everything is) then reworking routes and stock takes a distant second place to the (imho) urgent need to look at the physics and realism of the driving experience. The prettiest routes and most beautifully done models are worthless to me if the driving experience is as bizarre/lousy/blatantly inaccurate as it sometimes is at the moment. As I've said before, other third parties can produce content. Only RSC can sort out/improve the core physics and capabilities of the product.
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EDIT: See Jaap's post below

This isn't really relevant, but I'm including the section between Appleford Crossing and Radley in a 1930's-ish route that features the Abingdon branch line, and it's shown up a lot of discrepancies in the gradient profile. The default route has this section as on the level when in actual fact it's on an up and down grade varying between 1 in 260 and 1 in 470
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The release is postponed until Nath has permission from RSC


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jaapsloot wrote:The release is postponed until Nath has permission from RSC


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Maybe RSC could fold it into the original Ox-Padd ( providing the scenarios are portable anyway ) although I guess there might be asset problems given people often don't want them in payware. Could just employ him as a contracter to do it :)
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I was going to post in favour of the Oxford-Paddington route getting an overhaul, perhaps even as a new, payware route with Airport Junction included, one or two of the Thames valley branches added for extra scenario variety, the new layout at Reading, and greater scenic detail and a general improvement. But, as nice as all this would be, it would pretty much mean building the whole route from scratch again, and I'd rather see effort of that scale put into building a different route that doesn't already exist.
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