Doncaster works

[Traveller54]

Hi, if I owned the add on & was that worried about the missing link - I would edit the route to fit the link in! To quote that pesky meercat - simples I will get it at some point because those loco bits & the 03 will find a home on many routes.

If it that 'simplesk' Mark then how about you post a patch file in the UKTS library? Nothing wrong with that provided there is no 'payware only assets' included rather like some stock assets don't include the Geo files. Then again wouldn't a patch only be code - or is that too 'simplesk'?!!
Not there is a 'Challenge'

[TransportSteve]

Would it be morally wrong to make a suggestion that one of our esteemed route creators adds a few tracks in then and puts it onto the UKTS library, you'd obviously need to purchase the route add-on from RS.com to make it work and therefore they wouldn't lose any sales, indeed, it may benefit them if they sell more of these, after the update. It might help the scenario creators fill any voids and keep everyone else happy. Just a thought, shoot me if you think it unethical, I'm only saying what many people may be thinking, I know it might be disapproved of by the powers that be......

Cheerz. Transport Steve.

[Traveller54]

... then maybe they should have thought of that in the first place Steve? Even made it an extension to the Newcastle - York route and made EVERYBODY happy1

[styckx]

Would it be morally wrong to make a suggestion that one of our esteemed route creators adds a few tracks in then and puts it onto the UKTS library,

I'd suggest asking RSC before this takes place. The only way I could see getting around the obvious legal problem with this is only distributing the modified tracks.bin.

Even then it's a huge gray area of distributing payware even if just a section of it. I'd email them and ask if and how this could be done.

[gypbrc]

Noooo! No, don't do that. You'll find yourself in masses of hot water. What form of a patch could this take? If it were just adding new tracks, even then you change the tracks.bin file and make it available to everyone else. I personally think that's wrong enough anyway. And if you then have to chop some fences or paint some of the terrain or move some scenery around you could potentially end up distributing the whole of the route for the 'patch' to work.

Either leave it as it is, or add it yourself. If it's done properly it shouldn't affect any of the scenarios, and you can drive it then as you wish.

[FoggyMorning]

... then maybe they should have thought of that in the first place Steve? Even made it an extension to the Newcastle - York route and made EVERYBODY happy1

In fairness, it is being advertised and sold as "Doncaster Works". No mention of the Newcastle-York route or even Doncaster Station, so it should be quite clear that it is intended as a completely stand alone expansion. Of course that's not to say that anybody who wishes to add a connection or extension to their own copy isn't able to do so; as Mark said it's fundamentally no more complex than adding a tiny section of track and set of points

[styckx]

I personally think that's wrong enough anyway.

Same feelings here. It would provide a nice base platform for someone to build their own Doncaster yard from without paying for it.

[malkymackay]

Just a quick note for those who are waiting for the release of the 31 tomorrow instead - it's likely that you're gonna be dissapointed. It's now slated for release on Monday, the 6th. It's still earlier than it's advertised date of the 10th in the Showcase Newsletter from September.

[SHEEP]

Hi, if I owned the add on & was that worried about the missing link - I would edit the route to fit the link in! To quote that pesky meercat - simples I will get it at some point because those loco bits & the 03 will find a home on many routes.

Even more simples,

Why not badger RS.com to put the link in.

[Darpor]

Even more simples,

Why not badger RS.com to put the link in.

Badgering is not really the ideal way to get a result. How about a nice request instead?

[ightenhill]

Not sure this would work unless its on a totally different version/clone of Newcastle/York.. You owuld have a diffferent bin which would cause incompatibility with anything else


Had a good full day with it and its great fun but I do wonder about its longevity.. Even your own scenarios become quite ltd.. The best thing seems to be using the stuff in other routes/scenarios or using it as building tools

[darkdj]

After messing around with the works all day, i have to say still that £14.99 may be a bit steep, considering we do not get access to the mainline. However, all the extra assets and the 03 make up that price.

I agree that a small mainline connection could have varied scenarios, for example arranging a train of dead locomotives to be taken elsewhere for smelting etc. Then again, the beta route i'm currently getting ready for release does not have a mainline link, but will in the full version...

I wonder, if enough people email RS.com and politely ask about the possibiltiy of a mainline link patch, would they (or the original route author) consider it?

Dark.

[TransportSteve]

... then maybe they should have thought of that in the first place Steve? Even made it an extension to the Newcastle - York route and made EVERYBODY happy1

Hmmm, well, maybe not have gone as far as an extension to the York-Newc route, Trav, there is a fair bit of missing mileage between Donny and York, for one thing. It's only in Derek's mind why he didn't join the mainline to the Works and Station, but, as ightenhill has just mentioned, it may get a bit boring after a while for a few peeps, and they may not consider the £15 as financially viable, even though they get some loco cabs and the 03 thrown in, as well as the station, and for those of us who can't/don't create ourselves for whatever reason, that does limit the potential somewhat severely, in fact, I'm having second thoughts myself now.....

Cheerz. Steve.

[Darpor]

As I mentioned above about doing a modern version for AI scenarios, and the fact I had already built assets as part of another idea I had, here is one of them. Not brilliant, I have just whacked some basic textures on it and dumped it on Cresston for the screenshot but you get the idea.

[Toldrabald]

Hi, if I owned the add on & was that worried about the missing link - I would edit the route to fit the link in! To quote that pesky meercat - simples I will get it at some point because those loco bits & the 03 will find a home on many routes.

If it that 'simplesk' Mark then how about you post a patch file in the UKTS library? Nothing wrong with that provided there is no 'payware only assets' included rather like some stock assets don't include the Geo files. Then again wouldn't a patch only be code - or is that too 'simplesk'?!!
Not there is a 'Challenge'

I think one could build the link the usual way in the editor and give out the updated tracks.bin file. You would still need to buy the addon and without it you'll only get 1s and 0s...

Could anyone here describe a few of the scenarios as I still really don't have a right clue what they might be like with those junk locos. I'm not really into shunting/marshalling so I think I will pass on this one, but alas I also have a curious interest and the loco seems to be quite nice.