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The Lake Line

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 6:01 pm
by Andrew Page
On glancing at the RSC website I see there's an announcement about a 'new train simulator' called 'The Lake Line'. Does anyone know anything more about this? Is it an add-on for RW2, is it really a completely new train simulator or is it some sort of rehash of the old Train Driver simulation (which featured the West Somerset Railway as I recall).

If I've posted this in the wrong place or missed some obvious answer I apologise in advance!

AP

Re: The Lake Line

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 6:06 pm
by darkdj
Looks a bit fishy, wierd that RS.com seem to be making all these "New" simulators lately... Looks suspiciously like an addon with a fancy name, though I might be mistaken...

Dark.

Re: The Lake Line

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 6:10 pm
by KeithThomson
The twitter feed http://twitter.com/railsimulator has a link to http://fb.me/N3B4Hjh8 which has some info and screenshots....

Re: The Lake Line

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 6:31 pm
by Andrew Page
KeithThomson wrote:The twitter feed http://twitter.com/railsimulator has a link to http://fb.me/N3B4Hjh8 which has some info and screenshots....
Thanks for the links, Keith. It certainly looks as if, whatever Lake Line is, it either requires Railworks or makes use of the Railworks simulation since, love it or loath it, the HUD is there, as is what appears to be the Class 101 DMU. Ah well, no doubt all will be revealed in due course. However, my wallet is toghtly shut until the Falmouth Branch appears.

AP

Re: The Lake Line

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 6:37 pm
by ChrisBarnes
Darn, while £5 for a route, default black 5, invincible and 101 demu in a complete game package is very good value, I hope the route will also be available in RW2 add-on form as well as it's standalone status.

Regards
Chris

Re: The Lake Line

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 6:46 pm
by styckx
Lock it down like fort knox, make it free, and use it as a railworks demo.

Just my two cents. :) Neat concept though.

Re: The Lake Line

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 6:54 pm
by bigphill2
Hi all
I guess this must be "Learn to drive a steam locomotive Torado Edition". Indusrial North not the only one to suffer an idendity crisis :D
Phill

Re: The Lake Line

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 9:48 pm
by longbow
I guess the DLC content bundled in this route won't be the full RW versions but even so it's worth a lot more than GBP5, so I'll be interested to see if it works in RW.

Re: The Lake Line

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 9:56 pm
by alexnick
I'm assuming this is just a short "Railworks lite", which isn't a bad idea for someone who wants to 'have a go', without paying full price. Railworks probably is a little too expensive to appeal to casual interests, so this is a market response, in effect.

AN

Re: The Lake Line

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 10:16 pm
by Acorncomputer
Hi

This seems like an excellent idea for people who just want to buy a game for a modest amount, and play with it without any hassle. Whilst lots of us like to do many different things with our RailWorks, this is perfect for the casual player who does not care about add-ons or content creation.

I can see many stand alone routes coming out, all completely self contained. Perhaps eventually Heritage Railway Routes where visitors can buy a disc in the Shop and take home their own version of the Railway to play with at any time they want.

Good thinking there :D

Re: The Lake Line

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 10:18 pm
by metrobus
Ah yes Geoff, but what if we full railworks users want to play on that route too :D
Regards
Edward

Re: The Lake Line

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 10:22 pm
by Acorncomputer
metrobus wrote:Ah yes Geoff, but what if we full railworks users want to play on that route too :D
Regards
Edward
Hi Edward

I think this is just aimed at a specific market. Possibly a RailWorks add-on will be published later, but I am only guessing. I am sure that RS.com will let us know more about this over the next few days/weeks.

Re: The Lake Line

Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 1:08 am
by 1975Supra
Possibly a Railworks minus the editors.
I can't see the commercial point in creating a standalone if you then can't sell DLC addons easily. When you think that 80% to 90% of RW users won't touch the editors it makes good business sense to release a 'lite' version. Making it a one shot deal (ie no ability to add further DLC, ie upselling in marketing speak) would be a bad idea.
Dave

Re: The Lake Line

Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 1:19 am
by FoggyMorning
1975Supra wrote:Possibly a Railworks minus the editors.
I can't see the commercial point in creating a standalone if you then can't sell DLC addons easily. When you think that 80% to 90% of RW users won't touch the editors it makes good business sense to release a 'lite' version. Making it a one shot deal (ie no ability to add further DLC, ie upselling in marketing speak) would be a bad idea.
Dave
My guess is that RSC's thinking would be to "hook" new users with this (apparently) "lite" version and then persuade/entice them to upgrade to "full" Railworks. And if existing Railworks users wish to purchase this standalone pack as well, then so much the better. All just speculation on my part though :wink:

Steve

Re: The Lake Line

Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 4:30 pm
by ChrisBarnes
You know, 'lite' editions such as the The Lake Line would work really well on other platforms, where the route editing etc. wouldn't be viable. I would happily buy cut down editions for Xbox (optimised graphics, unlike on this PC) or even iPhone(portable simulation). I guess the main problem would be writing of a new game that suits the format of the consoles and iPhone/android phone, but I think from a business perspective it's something to think about for the future, especially if casual gamers are interested.

Regards
Chris