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How Wide Spread Are The Package Manager Problems?

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 8:49 pm
by stephenholmes
Good evening everyone
I've had a private discussion with Derek ref Package Manager

Since the German update Package Manager causes RW to crash on my computer as soon as I press install
I've tried the usual verify cache etc even a clean install but to no avail
I've also tried removing the assett folder then testing the pm and the content folder
The result is the same the pm has an unhandled exception error
Unfortunately there doesn't appear to be a dump file
For reference My Os is Windows Vista Business Edition 32 bit I have a dual core processor
Please can we keep this on topic and no flaming etc etc this is a genuine customer servey to try and find out if other members are having the same problem
Kind regards Stephen

Re: How Wide Spread Are The Package Manager Problems?

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 8:53 pm
by Darpor
Not an issue here Stephen. The PM gets used regularly to install object updates for routes as well as the packager to send out new builds of a route.

This is on Windows 7, quad core Phenom.

Re: How Wide Spread Are The Package Manager Problems?

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 9:14 pm
by FoggyMorning
The only issue I have had with the package manager is when I have clicked "Install" and then, instead of selecting an .rwp file clicked "Cancel".
This often (though by no means always) results in an "Unhandled Exception Error" message which causes the Railworks launcher to become unresponsive for approx. 30secs-1 minute.
However, after this period the launcher returns to it's usual, responsive state

Re: How Wide Spread Are The Package Manager Problems?

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 9:26 pm
by stephenholmes
Hello again everyone
Here is the list of the exception error messages created
Kind regards Stephen
See the end of this message for details on invoking
just-in-time (JIT) debugging instead of this dialog box.

************** Exception Text **************
System.AccessViolationException: Attempted to read or write protected memory. This is often an indication that other memory is corrupt.
at System.Windows.Forms.FileDialogNative.IFileDialog.Show(IntPtr parent)
at System.Windows.Forms.FileDialog.RunDialogVista(IntPtr hWndOwner)
at System.Windows.Forms.FileDialog.RunDialog(IntPtr hWndOwner)
at System.Windows.Forms.CommonDialog.ShowDialog(IWin32Window owner)
at WrapperNS.Wrapper.PackageInstall()
at WrapperNS.Wrapper.PackageInstallBtn_Click(Object sender, EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.OnClick(EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.Button.OnClick(EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.Button.OnMouseUp(MouseEventArgs mevent)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmMouseUp(Message& m, MouseButtons button, Int32 clicks)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.ButtonBase.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Button.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.OnMessage(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)


************** Loaded Assemblies **************
mscorlib
Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.4200 (NetFxQFE.050727-4200)
CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/Microsoft.NET/Framework/v2.0.50727/mscorlib.dll
----------------------------------------
RailWorks
Assembly Version: 2.0.0.1
Win32 Version: 2.0.0.1
CodeBase: file:///C:/program%20files/steam/steamapps/common/railworks/RailWorks.exe
----------------------------------------
System.Windows.Forms
Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.4016 (NetFxQFE.050727-4000)
CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Windows.Forms/2.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.Windows.Forms.dll
----------------------------------------
System
Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.4205 (VistaSP2GDR.050727-4200)
CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System/2.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.dll
----------------------------------------
System.Drawing
Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.4016 (NetFxQFE.050727-4000)
CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Drawing/2.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/System.Drawing.dll
----------------------------------------
System.Xml
Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.4016 (NetFxQFE.050727-4000)
CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Xml/2.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.Xml.dll
----------------------------------------
System.Configuration
Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.4016 (NetFxQFE.050727-4000)
CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Configuration/2.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/System.Configuration.dll
----------------------------------------
bma71d2p
Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.4205 (VistaSP2GDR.050727-4200)
CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System/2.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.dll
----------------------------------------

************** JIT Debugging **************
To enable just-in-time (JIT) debugging, the .config file for this
application or computer (machine.config) must have the
jitDebugging value set in the system.windows.forms section.
The application must also be compiled with debugging
enabled.

For example:

<configuration>
<system.windows.forms jitDebugging="true" />
</configuration>

When JIT debugging is enabled, any unhandled exception
will be sent to the JIT debugger registered on the computer
rather than be handled by this dialog box.

Re: How Wide Spread Are The Package Manager Problems?

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 9:31 pm
by AndyUK
No problem here either. I use the PM fairly often to both install and uninstall and don't ever remember a crash. That goes for my current OS, Win 7 64-bit, and the previous one, WinXP 32-bit. I've got a Core 2 Duo E8400 with 4GB of RAM, same machine as I used to run on XP.

Andy L

Re: How Wide Spread Are The Package Manager Problems?

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 9:34 pm
by stephenholmes
Hello Andy
Here is the screen triggered as soon as click the install button
Kind regards Stephen

Re: How Wide Spread Are The Package Manager Problems?

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 11:37 pm
by hertsbob
Hi

Really sorry to see that you're still having issues with this.

I know you must have been over it 1,000 times before, but it's nothing as obvious as Vista permissions is it?

The only other thing that occurs to me is that perhaps you do actually have a dodgy stick of RAM. Why it would show up with this error is beyond me however.

I've got the same processor and amount of RAM but am running XP Pro. My PM takes a few minutes to get its act together when I first start it up but I don't recall ever having any issues with it.

Best of luck.

Bob

Re: How Wide Spread Are The Package Manager Problems?

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 1:56 am
by mjoliver1
I'm sorry I can't help either as I cannot recall a crash associated with Package Manager (plenty 'in game', of course).

Vista Home Premium 64; Core i7 965, 3.2GHz; 6Gb Tri-Channel DDR3; ATI HD 4870x2.


Mike

Re: How Wide Spread Are The Package Manager Problems?

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 2:02 am
by alexedwin
First time I've used it is this week and no problems at all.
W7 Professional 64 bit, Intel Dual core 2.6mhz 4 Gig ram

Re: How Wide Spread Are The Package Manager Problems?

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 5:36 am
by ihavenonamenoreallyidont
No problems here. Sorry I can't help.

Re: How Wide Spread Are The Package Manager Problems?

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 5:55 am
by SMALLACTIONMONK
i have just done a quick search and found this from Microsoft http://support.microsoft.com/kb/815117

good luck in getting it sorted.

Re: How Wide Spread Are The Package Manager Problems?

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 6:22 am
by smarty2
Sorry too Stephen, I have no issues with PM either, running Vista Business 64.

Re: How Wide Spread Are The Package Manager Problems?

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 6:39 am
by stephenholmes
Good morning everyone
I am confused ref MDAC there are several and they seem to reference earlier versions of Windows
If I was to continue without the Package Manager is it possible to transfer everything from RS into RW
I'm sure I've read somewhere that certain routes are dependent on the PM ie the IOW?
Thanks for your help
Kind regards Stephen

Re: How Wide Spread Are The Package Manager Problems?

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 6:47 am
by transadelaide
All fine here with running RW on Windows XP. I see that you have reinstalled RW from scratch with just your Steam payware automatically added. This would suggest to me either a Windows issue, especially as you're on Vista, or a hardware issue like faulty RAM.

As for installing stuff without the package manager, go for it. All you need is a copy of 7-zip that you can use to extract *.rpk and *.rwp files to the railworks folder. Good luck with it.

Re: How Wide Spread Are The Package Manager Problems?

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 6:56 am
by stephenholmes
Hello
I have been installing various bits and bobs without PM
Although I feel sure I've read some things cannot be installed manually
I stand to be corrected on this
My Rail Simulator installation has performed faultlessly from day one
I am bewildered by this and resigned to not being able to use Package Manager
I will only repeat this once and that is the problem arose following the German Update
Now why this occurred I do not know
I don't know what else to do
Thanks anyway for your help
Yours in isolation
Kind regards Stephen