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Re: 4gb Patch
Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 6:30 pm
by ihavenonamenoreallyidont
djt01 wrote:rabid wrote:I am the proud owner of a system with an i7 975 @ 4GHz, and a Radeon HD5870, and one would think with such a system RW would run flawlessly. It does in the main run reasonably well of course, but if I try to set FSAA higher than 4x multisampling or if I enable vsync I get to Stutter City pretty fast (leaves seem to be a major killer, winter = smooth).
One of my setups uses the exact same specs, i7 975 and an ATI 5870. Unless you are trying to run RailWorks with SuperSampling AA applied you should have no problem running 8xAA with the 5870.
I get small stutters on my new i7 930 and Radeon 5870. And yesterday? I used to get them on my E8600 and GF 285...

Re: 4gb Patch
Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 7:24 pm
by rabid
djt01 wrote:rabid wrote:I am the proud owner of a system with an i7 975 @ 4GHz, and a Radeon HD5870, and one would think with such a system RW would run flawlessly. It does in the main run reasonably well of course, but if I try to set FSAA higher than 4x multisampling or if I enable vsync I get to Stutter City pretty fast (leaves seem to be a major killer, winter = smooth).
One of my setups uses the exact same specs, i7 975 and an ATI 5870. Unless you are trying to run RailWorks with SuperSampling AA applied you should have no problem running 8xAA with the 5870.
Hi, I have tried 8xMS and many other permutations and don't have any problem as such; RW just has a tendency to stutter a little more than with 4xMS.

Re: 4gb Patch
Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 7:34 pm
by djt01
ihavenonamenoreallyidont wrote:
I get small stutters on my new i7 930 and Radeon 5870. And yesterday? I used to get them on my E8600 and GF 285...

Unless you’ve got other issues going on setting the AA higher than 4x Multi-Sampling as rabid described has nothing to do with the stutters in RailWorks. The stutters are due to the way the RailWorks game engine uses system resources and loads scenery.
Re: 4gb Patch
Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 9:38 pm
by ihavenonamenoreallyidont
My point was that RW stutters, slightly, regardless of my hardware and regardless of any specific settings. Oh, to be in your apparent utopia

Re: 4gb Patch
Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 2:27 am
by djt01
ihavenonamenoreallyidont wrote:My point was that RW stutters, slightly, regardless of my hardware and regardless of any specific settings. Oh, to be in your apparent utopia

Read again carefully, I said the stutters in RailWorks are do to the way the game engine handles the scenery loading and shouldn't have anything to do with how the 5870 handles AA.
With the i7 975X/980X and the 5870 or GTX 480 yes it is PC gaming "utopia", lol..
Re: 4gb Patch
Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 4:57 am
by ihavenonamenoreallyidont
I read all your posts very carefully, rest assured
Anyway, back to the patch in question. I am finding it totally amazing that this really is a miracle cure for so many people. How could the existence of the file be such a well-kept secret, I wonder?
Re: 4gb Patch
Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 5:43 am
by djt01
ihavenonamenoreallyidont wrote:I read all your posts very carefully, rest assured
Anyway, back to the patch in question. I am finding it totally amazing that this really is a miracle cure for so many people. How could the existence of the file be such a well-kept secret, I wonder?
Who said it was a “well-kept secret”? Many have been using it to cure out of memory errors with add-ons for FS2004 for a very long time now, it's nothing new.
Re: 4gb Patch
Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 8:40 am
by CaptScarlet
djt01 wrote:ihavenonamenoreallyidont wrote:I read all your posts very carefully, rest assured
Anyway, back to the patch in question. I am finding it totally amazing that this really is a miracle cure for so many people. How could the existence of the file be such a well-kept secret, I wonder?
Who said it was a “well-kept secret”? Many have been using it to cure out of memory errors with add-ons for FS2004 for a very long time now, it's nothing new.
But it only became more useful in the last few years as 32bit programs began to hit the 2gb limit.
John
Re: 4gb Patch
Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 9:59 am
by ihavenonamenoreallyidont
djt01 wrote:
Who said it was a “well-kept secret”? Many have been using it to cure out of memory errors with add-ons for FS2004 for a very long time now, it's nothing new.
Dear me, are you always deliberately this contrary with everyone?
I was referring to the world of UKTS and this forum, rather than anything else. Additionally, it was a turn of phrase rather than to be taken verbatim.
Phew.
Let's just play RailWorks, shall we?
Re: 4gb Patch
Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 10:03 am
by msdejesus
I makes no difference whatsoever, at least as long as your humble servant is concerned, from where this came, since it has blessed me with the possiblity of running Ally's scenarios for W&B at the highest graphic settings, for which I wholeheartedly thank you, kind Sirs
Manuel
Re: 4gb Patch
Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 11:12 am
by Retro
Just a question. Sorry if it has already been answered. Will Steam wipe this out when it updates Railworks as I usually always play in online mode.
Kind regards James.
Re: 4gb Patch
Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 11:57 am
by CaptScarlet
Retro wrote:Just a question. Sorry if it has already been answered. Will Steam wipe this out when it updates Railworks as I usually always play in online mode.
Kind regards James.
Hi James, if you do a verify cache it probably will and until RSC amend the file themselves then it will be overwritten and you would need to reapply it.
John
Re: 4gb Patch
Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 12:35 pm
by markpullinger
Hi, if RSC modify the programme to suit the 64 bit crowd, how will it affect us running 32 bit versions of the operating system?
Re: 4gb Patch
Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 1:00 pm
by CaptScarlet
markpullinger wrote:Hi, if RSC modify the programme to suit the 64 bit crowd, how will it affect us running 32 bit versions of the operating system?
It shouldn't but it is something that is usable on a 32bit system as well if and only if the user makes a change to the USERVA setting of windows 32bit.
Re: 4gb Patch
Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 1:05 pm
by markpullinger
Have heard several mentions of this userva patch but no idea what it is or what it does! Perhaps the techie talk could be explained please - & not by being refered to a hardware forum
