9F Evening Star

[black8]

I still cant get over the mendips...........I have managed the climb to Shepton Mallet from evercreech, then for some reason the loco slows going down over Charlton rd, then just stalls on the climb boiler rate is good wide open throttle, cut off around 65-70%, getting some nices cuts from the chimney but cant get up, any more pointers ?

Hello antony
I am going pretty good with the 9F over the Mendips. Here are a few hints that at least work for me. When it is getting really steep (1 in 50 and such) I usually have the regulator at 100%, and the cut-off in the lower 80s, not lower (83 works fine for me). If I can not keep her from slowing down, I fiddle with the settings of regulator and cut-off, untill I have the lowest decrease in speed. Most of the time the decrease stops after a while and speed will slowly pick up again. If that happens I will try to fine tune regulator and cut-off for the best increase in speed. However I tend not to change settings untill I am comfortable with the speed increase or when I reach a lesser steep section. One more thing, regulator and cut-off both at 100% is not advisable, as most of the time speed falls back even faster. And another thing: It is better not to over-react when slowing down on a steep incline, I make small changes and see what effect it has on the speed.
Hope this helps.
Jos

[TransportSteve]

For the intermediate drivers on the forums, how do manage to keep the 9F's running using both, keyboard, and levers. I drove on the South Devon Banks v12, from Totnes towards Brent which is a 1 in 50 climb. I tried and stalled 3 times after leaving Totnes on full throttle 100% and every time she came to a complete stop and then sounded awful as the wheelslip came in, I had to turn my sound down.....
I cannot drive in expert mode, as, I'm certainly no expert on these machines, I'm a diesel man.....but, how does one keep the beasts rolling along up steep gradients, please folks, any ideas for us noobs ??

Cheerz. Transport Steve.

[jalmar]

Also have a wierd issue when i stop at stations aftera run the loco whilst stationary goes into wheel slip mode but the wheels arn't moving, only way to stop it is sanders, very strange.

Can confirm this one.

[longbow]

When it is getting really steep (1 in 50 and such) I usually have the regulator at 100%, and the cut-off in the lower 80s, not lower (83 works fine for me).

That's about what it took for me, and I'm barely making 10mph at the summit. It does show the limitations to RW physics however; perhaps it's just my driving, but I've generally found RW locos fall short of prototype performance. In real life the 9F was allowed 12 coaches single handed over the S&D, so it must have managed the tightly-timed Pines with much greater ease than the scenario portrays. That's just as well, as I imagine it would have torn its fire to shreds with the maxed-out settings mentioned above.

[g0fthick]

Hi Sly, the 9F is looking fantastic!

Just as a heads up, your new website doesn't load correctly in Google Chrome. This problem seems to be exclusive to this browser as it works fine in all of the others.



The difference is quite apparent.

[Easilyconfused]

Just as a heads up, your new website doesn't load correctly in Google Chrome. This problem seems to be exclusive to this browser as it works fine in all of the others.

The problem is that the images missing in the middle are classed as adverts and being blocked. Firefox with Adblock Plus does this also until I whitelisted the site.

[Kitform]

Just as a heads up, your new website doesn't load correctly in Google Chrome.

The site was originally coded for Firefox and IE. (I didn't know people used Google Chrome )
The site was a quick code to get it up there, it will be updated in due course as other features are added and Chrome will be checked for compatibility.

[crumplezone]

In regards to the 1 in 50:

It certainly is quite challenging with the Pines scenario, but it is doable. With posts before mentioning, you need a 100% throttle and 80-83% cut off on the reverser to allow the Evening Star to power up hill, if your doing it right you should be able to achieve a steady 16-17mph up to 1 in 50. If she starts to wheel slip, allow her to wheel slip slightly then hit the X key for the sander, she'll get grip again and you might have gained abit of speed to, I'm finding alittle gain of aroun 0.4 to 0.5mph when that happens. Ideally if you can, get a good run up before the hill and gain some speed as the back of the train gets onto the 1 in 50 you'll get hit by the slowdown, so if you can maintain abit of speed first then it lessens the fall off. Also make sure you have toggled your brakes to 15% running so your got maximum amount of steam pressure and production going, otherwise she will stall and roll back down the hill

It is a challenging scenario, so don't lose hope! fiddle with your settings and you should get the hang of it.

[g0fthick]

The problem is that the images missing in the middle are classed as adverts and being blocked. Firefox with Adblock Plus does this also until I whitelisted the site.

Ah, there lies the problem! I allowed the site to display adverts and the problem resolved itself.

(I didn't know people used Google Chrome )

Despite being one of the newer browsers available, Chrome is quickly gaining market share, and with Microsoft forced by European law to present alternate browser options in Windows, it's unlikely that trend will change. Especially with the financial backing of Google.

Although this doesn't seem to be a compatibility issue so I wouldn't worry, just my Adblock mistaking elements of the code for advertisements.

[alanch]

In regards to the 1 in 50:

It certainly is quite challenging with the Pines scenario, but it is doable. With posts before mentioning, you need a 100% throttle and 80-83% cut off on the reverser to allow the Evening Star to power up hill, if your doing it right you should be able to achieve a steady 16-17mph up to 1 in 50. If she starts to wheel slip, allow her to wheel slip slightly then hit the X key for the sander, she'll get grip again and you might have gained abit of speed to, I'm finding alittle gain of aroun 0.4 to 0.5mph when that happens. Ideally if you can, get a good run up before the hill and gain some speed as the back of the train gets onto the 1 in 50 you'll get hit by the slowdown, so if you can maintain abit of speed first then it lessens the fall off. Also make sure you have toggled your brakes to 15% running so your got maximum amount of steam pressure and production going, otherwise she will stall and roll back down the hill

It is a challenging scenario, so don't lose hope! fiddle with your settings and you should get the hang of it.

You might want to try using the blower as well, as this will increase steam generation, and experiment with the dampers. Those who have reported stalling probably ran out of steam, especially if they are using full regulator and high cut off. The blower should help.

[FoggyMorning]

The problem is that the images missing in the middle are classed as adverts and being blocked. Firefox with Adblock Plus does this also until I whitelisted the site.

Ah, there lies the problem! I allowed the site to display adverts and the problem resolved itself.

(I didn't know people used Google Chrome )

Despite being one of the newer browsers available, Chrome is quickly gaining market share, and with Microsoft forced by European law to present alternate browser options in Windows, it's unlikely that trend will change. Especially with the financial backing of Google.

Although this doesn't seem to be a compatibility issue so I wouldn't worry, just my Adblock mistaking elements of the code for advertisements.

Hi

I can confirm the IHH site works fine in Chrome with no ad block

[antonyperks]

This is hard, i can now get up and over the mendips but then just before wellow i run out of water with .32 water level but with over 2000 gals left in the tender how do i get the boiler to stay full i have been in auto fireman should this not run the injectors?, very how can you stall going down hill..................................

[dean1986]

When going up hills no you have a X amount of water in the boiler the boiler tilts sending the water towards the back of the boiler which leaves the front with less than the back. If the water is quite low there will be none at the front and all the water in the back which causes the boiler to blow. Id say you would need at least 0.40 in the boiler when going up a hill and that would then drop to maybe 0.10 as you climb the hill

I find with the 9F you can add water as you accelarate and you do not lose much performance.

[antonyperks]

yes but how do you add it?, all the keys i have tried dont seem to do anything "O" or "J"?

[Wikkus]

yes but how do you add it?, all the keys i have tried dont seem to do anything "O" or "J"?

Not "J"... The two you want (on this loco) are "O" for the live steam injector and "i" for the exhaust steam injector. However, before you use either of those, you must turn on the corresponding water feed(s); "L" and "K", respectively. The more times you press "L" or "K", the quicker the water flows. To turn them off, you just hold down Shift whilst repeatedly tapping the corresponding feed control. The "O" and "i" controls are simple toggles in RW, e.g. on/off.

Rgds, Rik.