40ft Intermodal Container Carriages

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Re: 40ft Intermodal Container Carriages

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See my edit above. Yes, similar, but much a fair age difference. The FSA is nearly 30 years younger.
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Ahh Seen the edit now

only two protypes were built... that was handy for me to choose that one then :oops:

Well I have started it so i will finish it :D

if the FFA/FGA is similar to the FSA which is in game, would I bebetter of to not make them and choose something else like the lowliner? what sort of Intermodal Wagons does the 70 haul?

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It's up to you what you model, look on it as a learning excercise. The first model I started to a diagram was a one-off prototype, but it helped me get to grips with Blender, so wasn't a waste of time doing.

The default FSA are outer's only, so have to used in pairs, a bit of an issue when doing 15 or 25 flat consists. There are the matching FTA inner's available in the Class 86 DLC pack, but freeware outer & inner flat's suitable for periods from the 60's onwards would be welcome, I would have thought.

Lowliner's were experimental too, with only a couple being built to a couple of different diagrams.

As for what a 70 would haul, Freightliner have the FSA/FTA dating from 1991, FEA which are Polish built from 2003, FLA which are 40' outer/45' inner low height chassis capable of taking 9' 6'' containers, KFA which are conversions of FFA to be able to operate singly IIRC & KTA 'Pocket Wagons' which are capable of carrying a 9' 6'' container in a well in the chassis.
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OK thanks for the advice. The 62' look to be stretched versions of my current ones so shouldn't be two hard to copy and modify a set.

have found a (basic) diagram fro KTA 'Pocket Wagons' so should get some of them done :D

the 42' Model is now a complete set, think the modelling is finished, if anyone sees anything feel free to post

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End wagon with container:

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Inner wagon with container:

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Inner wagon (Empty):

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End Wagon (Empty):

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Course now I have to get it textured and working in Railworks (only done static "clutter" items before... :oops: )
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Featuring a 40ft High Cube Container...

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They are looking fantastic, really well done! :o

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MallardFan,

I take it you selected the Unwrap(Smart Projections) option when unwrapping your container model and that is how you've ended up with that image?

If so, you may have to seperate each section to be able to texture it correctly. You can see in the right hand section of my attachment below how I have seperated all of the station light head UV's to enable me to texture it easier.
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Yes, it's a pain in the bottom but because of the way that Google Sketchup exports in Blender, it maybe your only option.

By the way, great looking models. :)
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Your models look fantastic, very clean and poly-efficient by the looks of it. :)
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Re: 40ft Intermodal Container Carriages

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Thanks for the advice gavo01. Do you separate the sections before importing into Blender or do it in blender?

Update, mostly done on the Pocket Wagon now, just have the bits at either end to do, look overly complicated and slightly confusing to model :-?

http://www.hentis-rail.co.uk/On_Locatio ... 260908.jpg

http://www.hentis-rail.co.uk/SotonEH121204.html


So this is how they look so far:

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Bogie of the Pocket Wagon:

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This one was more complicated because the plan one didn't match up to the images, so I just used the plan one instead.

Will start the FFA/FGA tomorrow hopefully, any more varieties people want?
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Re: 40ft Intermodal Container Carriages

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Just wondering if these are any good to you there the wagons the Stobart tesco wagons use
http://www.modernwagons.co.uk/images/t1101.jpg
http://www.railpictures.net/images/d1/1 ... 018953.jpg

I think the wagons are KFA Or KAA twins or something on those lines :D
PS awsome job on all the above wagons you have done the container side of railworks very proud :wink:

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Re: 40ft Intermodal Container Carriages

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I will have a look and see what I can find - part of the problem I have found is that the diagrams at http://www.barrowmoremrg.co.uk/Prototype.html don't have codes like KFA, so I am never quite sure which is which. I am assuming that "Lowliner B" (BR1/136, book Diagrams of Freight Stock) is the lowliner asked for earlier...

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Ah, but it depends which book you are looking at. :wink: The Books marked with a 3 digit number are the more modern ones with the TOPS codes & Design codes listed. You will find the Freightliner flats in Book 320 Part 2.
You won't find the KFA, as at the dating of these books it didn't exist. Back in the early 80's there was a KFV, but it was quite a different beast, being a 24.5t 2 axle vac-braked wagon for carrying steel coil.
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These look great, some new rolling stock rather than locos is what is needed
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MallardFan wrote:Do you separate the sections before importing into Blender or do it in blender?
Its done after you've exported to Blender.

I haven't used Google Sketchup so I couldn't say whether this could be achieved before exporting to Blender though.
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Re: 40ft Intermodal Container Carriages

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Thanks Everyone
malkymackay wrote:Ah, but it depends which book you are looking at. :wink: The Books marked with a 3 digit number are the more modern ones with the TOPS codes & Design codes listed. You will find the Freightliner flats in Book 320 Part 2.
You won't find the KFA, as at the dating of these books it didn't exist. Back in the early 80's there was a KFV, but it was quite a different beast, being a 24.5t 2 axle vac-braked wagon for carrying steel coil.
Ahh niw that is handy to know, have seen the TOPS codes now in the oter books, thanks very much


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