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Rather than make my own route I have decided to modify Newcastle-York to be an electric route after driving the FP 86 that in my opinion is one of the most realistic driving experiances available with the vigilance device and If you want realistic sounds then the AP sound pack can be applied to it .
I plan to "V1" out in a few days as it is just the default route with wires and cantenary everyware, oh and the speed limits changed to match the new rolling stock more at 110mph max so the 86/87's feel right at home all thanks to RW Tools.
Longer-term is putting some of the closed stations back into use and extending the route to include Consett and Bishop Auckland, maybe even extend the mainline a bit down to Doncaster but that of course is very long term but an achievable goal as I have a gradient profile for the enire ECML but the branches present difficulty as I can't find profiles for them.

Still a few questions

What stations could that where closed could have stayed open?

Are people willing to make signs for them? (and some other places along the route too)

You are still going to have to get permission before you can release it. Newcastle to York isn't strictly a "default" route due to being available as a seperate addon from RS days and still available as such.

Darpor wrote:You are still going to have to get permission before you can release it. Newcastle to York isn't strictly a "default" route due to being available as a seperate addon from RS days and still available as such.

Sent an Email off to RSC for permission in advance with how long they can take to respond sometimes

Sorry for the double post but RSC have gotten back to me and I now have permission to release it as long it is for free of of course and more intrestingly that it does not have any dlc content, Still It now has RSC approval. And I am not using any dlc anyway.

How will it be different to JT's Newcastle - York Modern?

pacerfan wrote:Sorry for the double post but RSC have gotten back to me and I now have permission to release it as long it is for free of of course and more intrestingly that it does not have any dlc content, Still It now has RSC approval. And I am not using any dlc anyway.

Three hours for a reply? That was quick I sent them a question about modifying a piece of core content on March 19th and still haven't had anything more than a "Thanks for the interest" reply...

xguerra wrote:How will it be different to JT's Newcastle - York Modern?

It'll be freeware, presumably.

JB

jivebunny wrote:

pacerfan wrote:Sorry for the double post but RSC have gotten back to me and I now have permission to release it as long it is for free of of course and more intrestingly that it does not have any dlc content, Still It now has RSC approval. And I am not using any dlc anyway.

Three hours for a reply? That was quick I sent them a question about modifying a piece of core content on March 19th and still haven't had anything more than a "Thanks for the interest" reply...

xguerra wrote:How will it be different to JT's Newcastle - York Modern?

It'll be freeware, presumably.

JB

The freeware aspect is a condition of the permission from RSC . also after reading about the Tyneside electrics it gave me an idea and after some experimenting with RW tools I managed to third rail electrify everything but the freight lines, I did the yards by accident but that is in the middle of being rectified at the moment. Overhead AC has now being scrapped and I have had some practise laying third rail after an abortive attempt at a electrified valley lines with it. This has mean that although I won't get the 86 speeding along I had a look at TOPS and 75, 78, 79 are unused so... well you are going to be seeing those numbers.

Quick question, what do you consider are the freight lines?

a 3rd rail Newcastle to York. good luck.

1970s version meaning all the trackwork. i wish you very good luck 3rd railing Newcastle (all lines)

salopiangrowler wrote:a 3rd rail Newcastle to York. good luck.

1970s version meaning all the trackwork. i wish you very good luck 3rd railing Newcastle (all lines)

All I said is that Overhead AC was scrapped...and AC isn't the only voltage for overhead lines and as for the trackwork the route is already in BR blue state

Third rail is going to be about Newcastle and the Tyne area in general

malkymackay wrote:Quick question, what do you consider are the freight lines?

The yards mainly, and Consett plus Dunston Staithes for the mo until route extension.

Progress update
Finished de-wiring the yards now and that just leaves the mainline electrified. The FP 86 is transforming (slowly) into the british rail class 78 as I'm tweaking the sounds and physics. John yellands girder gantries make are going very well with the route now that I have finished coding a gantry placement tool for them. plan to get pics up of the work so far tomorrow, but now for some shut eye.

pacerfan wrote:the route is already in BR blue state

What, you've already managed to add all the trackwork that is missing from the default version? That includes the correct layouts at Newcastle, Gateshead, Tyne Yard, Durham, Ferryhill, Darlington, Northallerton, Thirsk, Pilmoor, Tollerton, Skelton, York Yards & York Station - there is a lot to correct or add (and a few things to remove).

Here is some screens now, sorry about the delay
Looking south just by Northallerton junction


Two class 78's pass one another


Chester-Le-Street with its "1500" catenary


I am mainly doing this route as a hobby, just to have somewhere to run the freeware pack electric rolling stock I am not going for total accuracy

It's an interesting idea, as the NER had planned to electrify the route using 1500V DC overhead equipment, following on from their Shildon-Newport electrification.

BTW, you can safely get rid of that 80mph section near Northallerton. The real route was 100mph on the fasts, from Darlington to the approaches to York, from at least 1970.

malkymackay wrote:It's an interesting idea, as the NER had planned to electrify the route using 1500V DC overhead equipment, following on from their Shildon-Newport electrification.

BTW, you can safely get rid of that 80mph section near Northallerton. The real route was 100mph on the fasts, from Darlington to the approaches to York, from at least 1970.

Thanks for that, RW tools does come in handy for changing speed limits en-masse. That's what inspired me to do the modification in the first place, originally it was going to be EM1/2 traction using the woodhead equipment but the gantries do not exactly fit and all asset's must be freeware for it to be released. That was solved by using john yellands girder gantries that do awfully look like 1500 D.C ones. It was such a shame that IRL the NER did not get a chance to follow through with it's plans, we could have had an all electric mainline in by 1921. Who knows? perhaps then today most of our trains would be electric rather than the other way round.

Section 1 York-Darlington is almost completed, below is the slightly tweaked Thirsk station looking towards York, I will probably upload it tommorow once I have finished with the sound and number adjustments on the 78.
All that is left in terms of this section is the area around York and Darlington stations themselves. You will still be able to get to Newcastle although there are large gaps in catenary as most have to be placed Individually

The 78 will have the same top speed of 100 m.p.h along with the horsepower reduced down to 3,000 hp to account for the voltage difference.