newbie question - where to get terrain?

[ChrisCrinkle]

Hi there, i'm about to set off building a route i travel along a lot, however i'm stuck at phase 1, which as far as i see it, is getting heightmap/terrain height data. How do i go about acquiring this? as im sure no one has literally manually raised/lowered every inch of terrain in all the professional routes. The tutorial links to a japanese website with some DEM (???) thing on it, but the link is broken!

Can anyone advise me on where to get the heightmap data and how to import it into railworks? I'm after UK heighmaps.

[bigvern]

Start here...

http://www2.jpl.nasa.gov/srtm/

Go to Public Data Distribution then get hgt data from the normal server or if you're doing a US route go for the bil data from the seamless server, though you will need to use a programme called ReDem to convert it for use in RW.

For the UK there's some high res hgt data in the file library here.

[ChrisCrinkle]

Ok i managed to download the ordinance survey data and put it where instructed in the tutorial>>

"DEM terrain data
Get hold of the necessary DEM data file from this site;
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The file should be unzipped and dropped into your DEM folder in RW."

I didnt get it from the site it mentions because it no longer exists, i got it from their official website.

However, STILL when create a route (it also wont accept my longditude variable when doing this) It just brings up an ugly muddy flat plane. Can someone help?

[btvboxer]

Hi

Welcome to the forums. DEM data is also avaible from the UKTS File Libary.
http://members.uktrainsim.com/filelib-d ... 10,cls=875


btvboxer

[ChrisCrinkle]

Hi

Welcome to the forums. DEM data is also avaible from the UKTS File Libary.
http://members.uktrainsim.com/filelib-d ... 10,cls=875


btvboxer

I tried that but there was a queue and promised bandwidth was meagre!

[ChrisCrinkle]

Start here...

http://www2.jpl.nasa.gov/srtm/

Go to Public Data Distribution then get hgt data from the normal server or if you're doing a US route go for the bil data from the seamless server, though you will need to use a programme called ReDem to convert it for use in RW.

For the UK there's some high res hgt data in the file library here.

Sorry i dont understand, i followed the link, went to "Public Data Distribution". But theres no "get hgt data from the normal server" link on the page?

[bigvern]

Yes there is. Just refer to the links in paragraph 2, you want the one to the DDS server.

[Darpor]

I tried that but there was a queue and promised bandwidth was meagre!

What "promised" bandwidth?

[theokus]

Start here...

http://www2.jpl.nasa.gov/srtm/

Go to Public Data Distribution then get hgt data from the normal server or if you're doing a US route go for the bil data from the seamless server, though you will need to use a programme called ReDem to convert it for use in RW.

For the UK there's some high res hgt data in the file library here.

Sorry i dont understand, i followed the link, went to "Public Data Distribution". But theres no "get hgt data from the normal server" link on the page?

Perhaps here
http://dds.cr.usgs.gov/srtm/version1/

http://dds.cr.usgs.gov/srtm/version2_1/

And what you need is the "A to Z" procedure to make a route.
Have a look too at RWdecal.


It's complicated, the first time.
You know: "Been there, done that"

Read this too:
http://www.railsimdownloads.com/wiki/ti ... ent+Basics

[ChrisCrinkle]

Yes there is. Just refer to the links in paragraph 2, you want the one to the DDS server.

Ok i went into the dds link and clicked on "version 1" and then into "eurasia" but theres thousands of numbered files, how do i download them all quickly, or find out which ones i need?

[Darpor]

Yes there is. Just refer to the links in paragraph 2, you want the one to the DDS server.

Ok i went into the dds link and clicked on "version 1" and then into "eurasia" but theres thousands of numbered files, how do i download them all quickly, or find out which ones i need?

Whereabouts are you wanting to build? If it is the UK, this is a good tool to locate which files you would need for the UK. http://rw-trainsim.co.uk/forums/index.p ... w;down=219

Alternatively, the UKTS links above are more than ideal as they give you the whole country in one fellow swoop, and the quality is quite good too. Problem is, you are going to have meagre bandwidth unless you pay the small amount for premium access.

[antonyperks]

You can get you co-ordinates from google earth too go to where you want you route and find the co-ords, eg for my area around bristol you would use N51 w002, or 51 degs Lat and -2. Long

[haddock1000]

Ooh. Someone around bristol!

UK 1 degree map grid for 90M DEM Route Builders [161124 bytes] - UK_1deg_grid.zip File ID: 7390 Date: 03 Dec 2003 - 1761 Downloads

you may find this useful. Measure the coordinate in the bottom left corner (I think)

thanks,

haddock1000

[theokus]

Yes there is. Just refer to the links in paragraph 2, you want the one to the DDS server.

Ok i went into the dds link and clicked on "version 1" and then into "eurasia" but theres thousands of numbered files, how do i download them all quickly, or find out which ones i need?

- white rectangle > all of my country.
- red rectangle > region of my route only > route= see white pins

The yellow pins define the latitude and longitude of the region > one download and I have enough for my whole country.
Same for the corners of the red rectangle > but less dem-data.
It's up to you he: one time the red OR one time the white

The the latitude and longitude (numbers etc.) define your download.

[theokus]

Yes there is. Just refer to the links in paragraph 2, you want the one to the DDS server.

Ok i went into the dds link and clicked on "version 1" and then into "eurasia" but theres thousands of numbered files, how do i download them all quickly, or find out which ones i need?

- white rectangle > all of my country.
- red rectangle > region of my route only > route= see white pins

The yellow pins define the latitude and longitude of the region > one download and I have enough for my whole country.
Same for the corners of the red rectangle > but less dem-data.
It's up to you he: one time the red OR one time the white

The the latitude and longitude (numbers etc.) define your download.

Other option here:
http://forums.uktrainsim.com/viewtopic. ... 9&t=118868

Using Google Earth was original and first way to build a route.
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Have a look at RWDecal...but the DEM you need always he.
Same for RWTools.