Editing track

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Editing track

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Hi,

Newbie here, very much enjoying building my first small (fictitional) route. So far i have successfully established a couple miles double track mainline and a small yard, scenery and topography included. Loving it already. 8)

A question now arises : can i still edit the existing track ?... i'd like to change speed limits and direction. Is it possible or can this only be set while laying the track ?.....

Thanks very much for an answer !

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Re: Editing track

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It certainly is possible. Simply select the track using the track selection tool (when track is selected in top left panel there is an orange dotted box icon. That is the track selection tool). Once you have selected some track a panel will be available on the right hand side of the screen which you can pin out. It has all the track properties in.
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Re: Editing track

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Hi Jan

If you were building a 'serious' route you would need to consider using a single 'Track Rule' for the whole route or perhaps two or three rules but making sure to keep them separate. For example Main Line, Branch Line and Yard. Each track rule has a pre-set definition and has been pre-linked to certain types of track so when you select a track to use, in the bottom left fly-out window there will be a list of the track rules to use with it.

As Jim says, it is possible to change the some of the track rule properties after you have laid your track but it is a big task to change much and often at junctions annoyingly you cannot actually change the properties of some very short bits of track at all.

A good starting point is to use the Bath Main Line Track Rule for most of the route and Bath Yard in the yards and sidings.

Remember that the look of the track does not define the track rule being used as several different looking tracks can have the same track rules so you can mix different looking track in your route as long as they all use the same rule.

If you progress further, you can create your own track rule for your route and associate any type of (default) track to it as you wish.
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Wonderful ! Thanks very much gents, works like charm ! 8)

Understand about the single 'track rule' in favor of double track. Is it a lot to ask what exactly such a 'track rule' consists of, Geoff ?..... Searching the RW manual doesn't even bring up the word 'rule' .... ( plenty of 'track' though... :) )

Btw, it surely will take quite some time to get the hang of it all, but, as a newbie, i find the RW Editor an absolute joy to work with. I'm afraid my traindriver days are over for some time to come.... ( same happend to virtual flight, if you have 'creative blood' running thru your vains there's not much you can do about it, can you... Certainly not complaining, it's all about having fun, is'n it.. 8) )

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Re: Editing track

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Hi Jan

You may find further info on track rules and setting up your own here

http://www.railsimdownloads.com/wiki/ti ... ack%20rule

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Understand about the single 'track rule' in favor of double track. Is it a lot to ask what exactly such a 'track rule' consists of, Geoff ?..... Searching the RW manual doesn't even bring up the word 'rule' .... ( plenty of 'track' though... :) )
A slight misunderstanding :D

When I say a single track rule I am not referring to single track but just one track rule for all track whether laid as a single track or multiple track.

There is a lot of information that is not included in the manuals that come with RailWorks so there will be a certain amount of experimentation, trial and error required to make progress at times. The UKTS forums probably have answers to most problems but it does take a bit of delving at times. Use the UKTS search engine on key words which might help you to find answers.

Track rules contain information that will apply to all track that is laid with that rule. Speed limits, tightness of curves, type of levers applied to junctions, line direction, electrification, line type, etc.
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Thanks guys ! Ok, so i did NOT understand about the track rule, no surprise, éh.. :)

I found both tracks going in the same direction and laying very close together but i can imagine that can probabely be setup to ones need and liking as well... No need to answer, gents, i'll study the track rules setup document provided. Thanks very much for the link, Steve ! Excellent !

Thanks again, gentlemen, feeling more comfortable now ! 8)

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Jan
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Re: Editing track

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I found this tutorial very helpfull in regard to track laying, and associated track infrastructure.

http://members.uktrainsim.com/filelib-i ... leid=26428


If i remember correctly, you have to right click the download link, and save as to your prefered location on your computer.
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Re: Editing track

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Hi Jan

Welcome to routebuilding!

I found the various official and unofficial tutorials on youtube incredibly useful when I started. The track properties video should give you the infor you need and is here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5g52pLoJnrY

but searching for "railworks tutorial" will find pretty much everything.

As Geoff suggests, your best bet is to stick to some consistent track rules, like the bath ones. When / if you come to making a bigger project its worth making your own, but its not the easiest thing to get your head round. Just don't mix and match them

Good luck, and if you need any advice there's lots of useful information and answers to problems here.

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Just one point to watch out for, if you choose a track rule for your route and set it in the bottom left fly-out window, do not assume that it will still be like that next time you open your route after a save. Sometimes the rule will change by itself and you might start a long session of track laying only to find that the rule is wrong.
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Thanks for the links, gents, great quick vids and pdf ! 8)

Amazing, that 5 minutes video where this guy builds a complete route in just one hour ! ( is that believable ??.... :-? ) I started adding a station and had two platforms more or less perpendicular to the track after an hour... hehe

I didn't know anything about track rules when i started building my first route ( i always think it's best to start playing around with something new like the RW Editor before endlessly wading thru manuals first. Get the feel of the program so to speak.. ) So the Track Rule still reads ' All track TR ' . I notice the objects in the browser change significantly when i click the various available Track Rules. So far i have only used 'Track Bath Wood Old' for the main line and 'Track Yard Generic 01' for the yard. I choosed 'Bath Temp Main 70' as track rule now and hope to make sure that it stays there from now on.

Thanks again for all the tips, guys, highly appreciated ! Having great fun, yesterday evening i found myself walking the dog while wearing a slipper on one foot and a flip-flop on the other.... I'm totally emerged into my new imaginary train world ! :D

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I'm totally emerged into my new imaginary train world ! :D
Is there any other World :-?

The All Track Rule was introduced by RSDL for Rail Simulator as people were getting muddled up then. The All Track bit indicates that you can use all types of (default) track with it rather than the limited type of track that some more specific rules allow. One problem with the All Track Rule is that multiple tracks are laid a bit too close to each other and there can be collisions on multi track curves but generally it is a good all round rule.
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Re: Editing track

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I have about 30 miles of good working track now, running thru flat lands, rolling hills, a bit of mountain, valleys, couple of villages, roads, bridges, meandering river, some lakes and lots of vegetation.

What i forgat about is that tunnels need their own track. My landscape certainly warrants a few tunnels here and there but i am reluctant to go and mess about with the track again now i finally got rid of all those pesky red squares and rectangles. ( i once ran into an invisible buffer, no square or rectangle to see, took an hour or two to fix it ! ) What i wanted to ask is, would you advice me to go ahead with installing a few tunnels, and if afirmative, what would be the best way to go about it, or would you advice to keep tunnels for another route, leave well enough alone ?.... :roll:

Any hints, tips highly appreciated ! 8)

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Re: Editing track

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Well if you are very concerned then backup your route.

To make a tunnel is quite easy.

Here is a tutorial:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8z0IyNBL6M
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Re: Editing track

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Hi

Or you could keep the same track and use the Trackless Tunnel(?) loft which will give you a tunnel around it. If that makes sense!

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