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Angus and Kincardinshire.

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With The Central Route finished. It is in testing and due for release soon. I am thinking of my next project. There is a preserved Railway presently running from Brechin to The Bridge Of Dun. There are plans in the future to link this up to the ECML. About 4 Miles of Track. The project would involve this line and the ECML from Arbroath to Stonehaven including the Town of Montrose. Because the sea at Montrose is about a mile from the High Street, it would be a good excuse to have a Fictional Tramway to take Tourists to the Beach. Trams are something I like but have not included in a Route yet.
I Know Montrose and Brechin pretty well as I was born up there and used to visit on many occasions in my younger years.
If anyone has any information that may be useful in building such a Route I would be grateful if you would let me know. This is just an idea at this moment in time.
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Think I will have to take a look on street view. James are you going to have a bash at making buildings. Its not a part of the world I have been to. Trams now your talking.


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Hi John,
Some 3D modelling would be pretty essential on this Route. The Scottish Housing, Shops and Tenements are not quite the same as we have in England and Granite is often used as a building material. The Bridge of Dun is quite unique and could not be put together from default Bridges. The Railway and Road Bridges over the Montrose Basin are also pretty unique. If memory serves me correctly it is a One Track Railway Bridge. Montrose High Street is also a challenge because it is quite wide and then narrows down into Murray Street. Brechin Station Buildings will also be a challenge.
I am not sure how long it would take me to learn the skills needed to do this sort of Modelling. So at the moment it is still an Idea. Whatever I decide to do however my next Route will have Trams.
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James, you are correct that the line is single crossing Montrose Basin. The single line runs from the south end of the station for 1 1/2 miles to Usan.

I know what you mean about the buildings being that little bit different & the material used. I spent 20 years living in Aberdeen, and one of my favourite runs on my motorbike was down the coast to Montrose/Arbroath & then inland to Brechin or Forfar.
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Thanks for confirming my single line supposition Malcolm. There would be quite a few challenges in building this Route. Looking on Google electrification seems to end around Edinburgh. Aberdeen is an incredible place to live although it does get pretty cold at times. The Gas of course caused some major changes to take place along this part of the East Coast. I still think that Montrose has one of the best beaches in the country. I would love to be living up there again.
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Just been having a look at some pictures of Montrose Station in 2006 and we still have Semaphores. Have yet to find some more recent pictures. Dundee seems to have Colour Lights. Does anyone know if the signals Arbroath and Montrose have been updated since 2006 or does that section of the ECML still have a mixture of Semaphores and Colour lights?
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Most of the line between Aberdeen & Dundee is still mechanical signalling. Just short sections of MAS at Aberdeen & Dundee. No wires either, though it's been argued about for the last 20 odd years. You've got me reminiscing now, as I remember a very nice holiday in Montrose in the early 80's. We stayed at a caravan park just behind the dunes - right next to the Glaxo factory :o
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Thanks for that information. My aunt used to work at Glaxo and before that at Chivers. I wonder if they are using AWS or TPWS with these signals in the interest of modern safety regulations. The Dunes where great especially if it was a bit windy.
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Just been doing a little playing around and have done the Route Template and DEM Data is in and appears to be working. Just downloaded RWDecal.
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Just been looking at some pictures showing the Track both at Brechin Preserved Railway and Montrose ECML. The Bath Track would be a good fit at Brechin. The WCML Track without Overhead Wire would match the Track at Montrose best. It would however need the WCML Payware to run the Route. I would have to create my own Track Rule directed at the WCML Track and leave the electrified box clear. From memory this should remove the OHW. The OP Default is to shiny and new looking. More Dilemma's. Sorry for thinking aloud.
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Starting to get used to RWDecal now and have managed to place some Decals. I need to check the the Terrain is covering the complete area and may need to add some more files to the DEM Folder. Named Markers of the Stations done.
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Got Decals round the Montrose Area and placed the first piece of Track across Montrose Basin.
This route is going to be pretty tricky and I will need to learn some new Techniques.



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Hi,
Have started My Track Rule Blueprint and I have decided to use the WCML Track. I can't find any other that matches the Track used in Scotland correctly. The OP Default track in the Screenshot in the previous post looks wrong. So users will need the IOW and WCML Payware Installed to run this Route. Any objections or alternative suggestions please let me know.
I have got to create something like this :roll:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTbxYujP ... re=related
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Do you want the track I'm using for MSJ? It's all done so I can provide it asap?

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Thanks for the offer Duncan. I am still uncertain what to use. Scotland seem to have this fascination with Red Gravel. They even use it on sections of some Platforms. This is why the WCML Track looks right for the ECML section of the Route The Route also has a Heritage Line between Brechin and Bridge of Dun where your Track might fit in quite nicely. I have not even started on this section yet.
Are you intending to release your Track as a separate Asset through uktriansim or with your latest work when finished?
Thanks again for your offer.
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