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Re: My Harrow to Watford Route

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 2:49 am
by mjoliver1
Hi Bob,

I'm tinkering with the Oxford Paddington route. Having always had the feeling that the north side of Paddington is lacking (i.e. missing platforms 13-16), I am adding the suburban platforms 13-14 and, in particular, the Hammersmith and City for 15-16. The biggest problem is that RSC's Paddington Station is a monolithic single asset, so until I can find a way of chopping it around or rebuilding something more prototypical, there will just be the added tracks, stock platforms and footbridges. It's just a bit of fun really, but It's always niggled me that RSC did not go just that little bit further with authenticity on this flagship route.
Good luck with the renewed posting of your route. I'm looking forward to it in particular since, as you can tell, I like mixed services. Hence, my favourite route to date is Trainz London Euston to Watford Junction that has standard, centenary, third and fourth rail sections.

Cheers!

Mike

Re: My Harrow to Watford Route

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 7:45 am
by partyspiritz
The other thing that missing from the Oxford Paddington Route Trellick Tower it stands right next to the tracks its one of london's landmarks to social housing



Regards



John

Re: My Harrow to Watford Route

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 9:10 am
by hertsbob
Hi

Best of luck with your improvements. I guess you're stuck with the default Paddington then! I think that's one of the advantages of building an older route - you don't have to worry too much about fitting in all the latest buildings and you can chose a period of time that fits in with the available assets!

The route is available now, I see, so I shall look forward to the inevitable postings later on this morning listing all the errors (assuming it is going to work at all!) :-?

Cheers

Bob

Re: My Harrow to Watford Route

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 11:25 pm
by mundo
Hello

Looks like I've got to renew my UKTS subscription. The free download queues have been enormous lately.

As for buildings around Paddington you can't forget my old school.
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&sourc ... 5&t=k&z=16
During history lessons on the top floor, the GWR sign on the side of the station
was visible from the window by my desk :D

Cheers

Mundo

Re: My Leafy Suburbs Route

Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 1:32 am
by hertsbob
Doesn't time fly - except when gazing out of a classroom window!

Thanks to everyone for the positive comments in the General Discussion thread.

Here's an update on current progress.

As I've previously said the next stage is the line to Rickmansworth. There are fewer suburbs and more leaves in this stretch!

The chimney centre-left is from an asbestos factory, by the way. Nice.

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About halfway there:

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I don't think I'm going to be able to ignore the Metropolitan for very long!

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The Grand Union Canal also makes an appearance:

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Finally for today Dickinsons' Croxley Mills, which is where Croxley Script paper was made for many years:

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Cheers

Bob

Re: My Leafy Suburbs Route

Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 8:24 am
by msey0002
Fantastic, Bob, a real gem of a route.

May I ask, what time of diesel locos used to run the line? The WCML used to take 50s, 47s, 37s, and 45s (i think?)?

and what did the suburbs used to take?

cheers

Re: My Leafy Suburbs Route

Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 10:18 am
by alanch
msey0002 wrote:Fantastic, Bob, a real gem of a route.

May I ask, what time of diesel locos used to run the line? The WCML used to take 50s, 47s, 37s, and 45s (i think?)?

and what did the suburbs used to take?

cheers
The earliest diesels on this route from the late 1950s were Classes 20, 24/25 and 40. The 37s, 47s and 50s came later.

Re: My Leafy Suburbs Route

Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 1:43 pm
by msey0002
Thank you, Alan, this will help with a scenario i am thinking about :)

Re: My Leafy Suburbs Route

Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 8:50 pm
by hertsbob
Good list Alan. Couldn't have put it better myself!

Hope your scenario works out!

As far as the suburban stock is concerned, I don't think we're going to get anything better than the existing LT stock in RW.

The alternatives are either the Oerlikon stock http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/LNWR_electric_units.
The interior looks incredible! http://www.southernelectric.org.uk/pres ... on_int.jpg

After these came the 501s.
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File: ... adcode.jpg

As far as the non-electrified lines are concerned, they basically need DMUs although 'rail coaches' were used on the line to St Albans for about 20 years in the early days of diesel.

Cheers

Bob

Re: My Leafy Suburbs Route

Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 8:59 pm
by msey0002
hertsbob wrote:
As far as the non-electrified lines are concerned, they basically need DMUs although 'rail coaches' were used on the line to St Albans for about 20 years in the early days of diesel.

Cheers

Bob
Thanks, Bob.

I am thinking of a class 24 haul, since no DMUs are available. Was the railcar used at all in suburban non electrified London?

EDIT: Like the railcar created by Richard Scott (I think it was Mr Scott?)

Re: My Leafy Suburbs Route

Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 9:18 pm
by hertsbob
I don't believe they did run in these parts, but having said that using Richard Scott's Railcar is an excellent alternative.

As far as the Stanmore branch is concerned:
"First generation BUT railcars were in use in most of the 1954-61 period, but steam traction then returned intermittently until Dec 1962"
*
After this Park Royal DMUs were used until closure I believe.

I have no idea whatever a BUT railcar looks like, and I'm sure nobody would complain if it were substituted!

Cheers

Bob


*Harrow to Watford and the Branches - Vic Mitchell & Keith Smith

Re: My Leafy Suburbs Route

Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 9:21 pm
by msey0002
Thank you very much, Bob, might use a couple of BR liveried railcars coupled together, then :)

Re: My Leafy Suburbs Route

Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 10:27 pm
by alanch
hertsbob wrote:Good list Alan. Couldn't have put it better myself!

Hope your scenario works out!

As far as the suburban stock is concerned, I don't think we're going to get anything better than the existing LT stock in RW.

The alternatives are either the Oerlikon stock http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/LNWR_electric_units.
The interior looks incredible! http://www.southernelectric.org.uk/pres ... on_int.jpg

Bob
I should have got it right, Bob. I spent enough time standing on the electric platforms at South Hampstead waitching trains heading north out of the tunnels, and then bunking round Campden and Willesden sheds. We were very surprised when D8000 emerged on a freight from the North London line - the first of the BR main line diesels, and as an explanation for our younger viewers, that was the first Class 20.

It would be nice to see some models of the Oerlikon stock - I travelled on those a few times.

Re: My Leafy Suburbs Route

Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 10:37 pm
by hertsbob
Sounds good to me!

Re: My Leafy Suburbs Route

Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 12:49 am
by hertsbob
Hi once again.

Sorry Alan, completely missed your post before...

Bunking off indeed!! But I bet your memories are far stronger that day than they would have been had you stayed in school!!

Here's the next update. The line and scenery to Rickmansworth are just about done, bar the shouting.

Crossing the Grand Union on the approach to Ricky:

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Rickmansworth (Church Street) station:

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Looking back towards Watford. The Metropolitan line runs along the embankment near the top of the shot:

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On the subject of the Met, the track is now laid between Moor Park and Rickmansworth and to Watford. I've also laid the track to Croxley Green, and am currently working on the scenery for this branch.

Just headed onto the branch line - with two stations in as many miles:

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Cheers

Bob