Crashing, PC Problem?

[gptech]

You only need a partitioned drive if, well, if you want one really...partitions just define areas of storage space. Your old HDD is partitioned because Win7 cretaes a hidden 100MB drive for recovery data, boot loader files for multi-booting and other mysterious things. Rather simplified, but good enough for how I perceive your needs and understanding. Your old drive would benefit from a re-format, after making sure you've backed up all your important bits and bobs of course, as it'll hold your old OS and registry etc, which you aren't going to need now you're on the SSD. You could go through it all manually, but a reformat is a one shot solution. Then all you'd have to do is re-install all your programs and you're back in business

To keep the SSD for just Windows and RW is easy...just dont install anything else to it!. Most installers will give you an option of where to install the program to, so choose your alternative drive. It's considered wise to keep RW (and other programs) out of c:\program files or its (x86) sibling, as these folders get a certain degree of extra protection from Windows, which can cause write problems------it also means (as one example) you won't have to run RW_Tools as Administrator as the games out of the 'protected' place.
You'd be well advised to move your documents and
temporary files off the SSD and onto your old drive, have a read of http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/70 ... s-7-a.html

[theokus]

You only need a partitioned drive if, well, if you want one really...partitions just define areas of storage space. Your old HDD is partitioned because Win7 cretaes a hidden 100MB drive for recovery data, boot loader files for multi-booting and other mysterious things. Rather simplified, but good enough for how I perceive your needs and understanding. Your old drive would benefit from a re-format, after making sure you've backed up all your important bits and bobs of course, as it'll hold your old OS and registry etc, which you aren't going to need now you're on the SSD. You could go through it all manually, but a reformat is a one shot solution. Then all you'd have to do is re-install all your programs and you're back in business

To keep the SSD for just Windows and RW is easy...just dont install anything else to it!. Most installers will give you an option of where to install the program to, so choose your alternative drive. It's considered wise to keep RW (and other programs) out of c:\program files or its (x86) sibling, as these folders get a certain degree of extra protection from Windows, which can cause write problems------it also means (as one example) you won't have to run RW_Tools as Administrator as the games out of the 'protected' place.
You'd be well advised to move your documents and
temporary files off the SSD and onto your old drive, have a read of http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/70 ... s-7-a.html

Good work gptech.
(and I use too > C:/Steam).

[gptech]

Whoaaaa!!!...hold everything and don't delete stuff yet.

Just had a thought,--yes...small hours of the morning and I've only jst got round to starting thinking--by rights you should have a 100MB partition on the SSD, if it's a new, single installation. The fact you havent has me wondering if it isn't using the boot loader stuff from the old drive, so if you scrub that you're in trouble.
How did you go about installing this new copy of Windows?

[theokus]

Whoaaaa!!!...hold everything and don't delete stuff yet.

Just had a thought,--yes...small hours of the morning and I've only jst got round to starting thinking--by rights you should have a 100MB partition on the SSD, if it's a new, single installation. The fact you havent has me wondering if it isn't using the boot loader stuff from the old drive, so if you scrub that you're in trouble.
How did you go about installing this new copy of Windows?

Haha gptech

You know, deleting files is not enough.
You need something like HDDerase.
Is all about to keep the speed of the SSD. (performance)

And more or less then 10% of a new SSD should not be used....
Is all about the 'system reserved' partition.

[andyw823]

Whoaaaa!!!...hold everything and don't delete stuff yet.

Just had a thought,--yes...small hours of the morning and I've only jst got round to starting thinking--by rights you should have a 100MB partition on the SSD, if it's a new, single installation. The fact you havent has me wondering if it isn't using the boot loader stuff from the old drive, so if you scrub that you're in trouble.
How did you go about installing this new copy of Windows?

I istalled it from the boot cd and deleted the old partitions then selected the SSD drive to install windows on. The pic at the bottom of the first page of the drives is how it was after installing. I have i done it right?

[gptech]

You seem to have 'done it by the book', apparently Windows does write the system reserved area to a separate disc if one's available;

"One word of advice I'd mention is to disconnect ALL of your drives EXCEPT the SSD when you install Windows. Windows will try to create a "recovery partition" on a different drive than the OS drive. When you boot the system you're actually booting from the recovery partition which then goes ahead and loads windows from the OS drive. The idea is that it your OS drive gets corrupted then you can still boot the recovery partition in order to perform a repair.

Unfortunately it means that both drives need to work in order to boot Windows. I personally prefer that everything you need to boot the system be on one drive, so I install windows without any other drives connected. This way it creates the recovery partition on the same drive as Windows (the SSD, in this case).

I do periodic image backups of the OS drive so that if there's a problem it's an easy restore (using a recovery DVD) to get everything working again. " (from http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/1813-63-tomshardware)

It's entirely up to you if you want to leave things how they are, or follow the above advice---do what works for you! (don't forget what the P in 'PC' stands for )

[theokus]

My "P" view is to buy INtel SSD.
The INtel SSD Toolbox takes a lot of wurries out of hands

[andyw823]

Thanks for your help guys

Im still yet to install and run RW2 so don`t hide away just yet

[theokus]

Thanks for your help guys

Im still yet to install and run RW2 so don`t hide away just yet

Andy,

Only and imho look first too for support at the Kingston site.
I want only to say: learn a bit about those SSD's.

Read and "do" those instructions from that url from gptech.

The new SSD's from Intel and with their new SSD Toolbox you can
use the whole volume of their SSD's.

Don't forget > C:\Steam
If RW2 is up and running and all you other software is ready to go,
make an image (kind of a backup) from whole the SSD and save it on a
external device.
I use Acronis.

My *. pst file (Outlook) is not on my SSD.

Put all your data on that second internal drive and make a backup 1:1.
I use SyncToy > (it' s free) with the option "echo".
Put that data too on an external drive.
===========================================================
C-drive (the SSD) > image > D-disk AND external drive
D-drive > all data > with Synctoy on the same external drive.

I do this so I can reach my data all the time.
Even on a second pc in case the first one has a crash....
==========================================================
My SSD sits in a kind of swap frame from Sharkoon.
So I can easy swap the SSD with Ubuntu on
Or an other OS.

[andyw823]

Thanks theokus, which URL are you referring too?

[gptech]

Whether it's http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/70 ... s-7-a.html or http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/1813-63-tomshardware please consider that those are just two out of many pages devoted to getting the most out of your shiney, new SSD----and mostly give one guys opinion and ideas. Any tips you find, please cross reference them to see if they're pretty much 'the accepted way to do it', and if in doubt...don't do it till you get the doubt removed I will echo theokus' advice about researching, particularly at Kingstons own support pages.

[theokus]

My Intel SSD is

SSDSA2MH160G2C1

Is an old one in the SSD-world

There are already pci-e and mini pci-e ones.
(look at OCZ> and costing a few ££££)

[bailey7802]

Hi I might know why your computer freezes as my'ne does that well only help is save all work and when it does freeze press the Ctrl +Alt +Del at the same time if your computer runs on either Windows vista, Xp, or Windows 7 as their may be a drop down menu with the following info :
Start task manger then click on the link and if it comes up with a other notic then close down RW.
Hope this helps sorry if it doesn't work

[gptech]

Hi I might know why your computer freezes as my'ne does that well only help is save all work and when it does freeze press the Ctrl +Alt +Del at the same time if your computer runs on either Windows vista, Xp, or Windows 7 as their may be a drop down menu with the following info :
Start task manger then click on the link and if it comes up with a other notic then close down RW.
Hope this helps sorry if it doesn't work

errr....call me a pedantic old so-and-so, but that says nothing about WHY it freezes, only that yours does too, and how you invoke task manager to close the process. You also say 'save all work'..pray tell how you do that with a PC thats frozen?

[andyw823]

Hi I might know why your computer freezes as my'ne does that well only help is save all work and when it does freeze press the Ctrl +Alt +Del at the same time if your computer runs on either Windows vista, Xp, or Windows 7 as their may be a drop down menu with the following info :
Start task manger then click on the link and if it comes up with a other notic then close down RW.
Hope this helps sorry if it doesn't work

Thanks for your suggestion but when it freezes it freezes!