BATS

mjt222 · Post by **mjt222** » Sat Sep 01, 2007 7:43 pm

latimers wrote:Some of you will not know who I am. I’ve been the lead beta tester for BATS for a while now but have not been a very visible member of the team.

At least one member of both the UKTS and BATS forums has noticed that I have been even more quiet than usual during the recent events. I want to make sure that this is not being interpreted as a lack of support for the actions being taken by Tim, Kim, Michael and Martin. I have been involved in some of the very difficult (and sometimes soul destroying) discussions over the last couple of weeks and want to publicly state that the decisions being made by “the remaining members of Blue Arrow TS” have my 100% agreement and support.

This is a very difficult time for everybody and especially for those intimately involved. Please give them a bit of room to do what needs to be done. I’m sure when the situation has stabilised (in whatever state) an official announcement will be made.

Regards,

Bob Latimer.

Hi Bob,

Thanks for this, and Im sure you know I and the other guys have anever ever thought anything less, you always provide the objective viewpoint

Cheers

Martin

trainlord · Post by **trainlord** » Sun Sep 02, 2007 2:40 pm

whats happend ? im confused some one closeing down a site or something ??

last time was up set about something was... SAMP and they was continuasly getting hacked and when they went to re-bot the system to get rid of the hackers the hackers placed a bot in thear system which caused the master server to give up then that made me annoyed then next day the forum said it was closing permantly a day after that it open aggain now with new fire walls hackers cant get in and it sorted out so all im saying is that it will sort its self out and if anyone gives you greef get thear sysem info and give it to hacker sites

BR7MT · Post by **BR7MT** » Sun Sep 02, 2007 3:02 pm

trainlord - for your information Bluearrow Trainsim (BATS) produced the Severn Valley Railway add-on for MSTS back in 2004. This product set the standard for route and rolling stock detail for commercial add-ons. They also produced numerous other add-ons from Electric trains to the Southern Region, encompassing LNER locomotives and stock on the way.

The current difficulties are entirely to do with the lack of contact with the team leader, which has unfortunately meant that the best option is to cease trading.

Regards,

Dan

trainlord · Post by **trainlord** » Sun Sep 02, 2007 3:15 pm

oh i know what BATS is not btw i got seven vally thingy you guys think its good ???? its alright but is not the best route ever WSR is way better...

kieranhardy · Post by **kieranhardy** » Sun Sep 02, 2007 3:40 pm

trainlord wrote:oh i know what BATS is not btw i got seven vally thingy you guys think its good ???? its alright but is not the best route ever WSR is way better...

This isn't about comparing add ons and saying which one is better, fact that the WSR route was created some time after the SVR should be taken into account. IMO SVR is still one of the MSTS greats and i think some people will agree it always will be. While you seem to be more interested in comparing add ons to others, im sure other people are more concerned of what the out come of all this will be. BATS have produced some fine add ons and i would like to thank them for all they have done for the MSTS community.

trainlord, no offence but if you dont have anything helpful to say then please, don't post further in this thread.

karlrestall · Post by **karlrestall** » Sun Sep 02, 2007 3:49 pm

BATS have produced excellent add ons and given some very good freeware stuff to the community as well. I would like to say thank you and I hope that this all turns out well and BATS can carry on producing excellent items for some time yet for us all to enjoy.

Regards

Karl

trainlord · Post by **trainlord** » Sun Sep 02, 2007 3:52 pm

ouch

i dont think non of us can help this matter..

WSR2005 · Post by **WSR2005** » Sun Sep 02, 2007 3:52 pm

Can only echo the sentiments of others at this time, BATS have made some great add-ons for MSTS and have made a significant contribution to the trainsimming community. I wish all members of the team, especially Mike at this difficult time, all the best and I hope that all ends well.

Tim

trainlord · Post by **trainlord** » Sun Sep 02, 2007 4:02 pm

report him get him shut down if he owed me money and wasent replying i whould do barmy and do everything i can to get him off line...

BR7MT · Post by **BR7MT** » Sun Sep 02, 2007 4:06 pm

trainlord wrote:report him get him shut down if he owed me money and wasent replying i whould do barmy and do everything i can to get him off line...

Posts like that really don't help...

Regards,

Dan

dkightley · Post by **dkightley** » Sun Sep 02, 2007 4:12 pm

trainlord

Comments like your's are not really welcome here at UKTS.

Yes. The guys at BATS are having problems, and its their business....and not anybody elses.

Where we are all affected is that a source of very good add-ons for MSTS is probably gone for ever....which is the reason for this thread.

Please do not continue commenting in that way.

trainlord · Post by **trainlord** » Sun Sep 02, 2007 4:21 pm

lol sorry but seriously some of the things that u guys do look way better you lot shuold make a team together and get like a business going take critch tramway that is a nice simple map wil a little extra work that chouls be one of the best tram simularots on msts...

seriously the work on here can we way better than what they do...

dkightley · Post by **dkightley** » Sun Sep 02, 2007 4:28 pm

...take critch tramway that is a nice simple map wil a little extra work that chouls be one of the best tram simularots on msts..

In my opinion, it is already one of the best tram simulators on MSTS....

But, I'm just a tad biased....seeing as I built it!

And its not a case of one route or one person's work being better than someone elses. To build a route in the first place is an achievement....and that's enough for me to say that someone deserves credit.

ashgray · Post by **ashgray** » Sun Sep 02, 2007 4:31 pm

Trainlord - Firstly, Crich is Doug's route and I'm sure you won't get round him by telling him that it needs some extra work! Second, he's already told you that comments such as those you've posted are not welcome, yet you continue to make them!

seriously the work on here can we way better than what they do...

We are not in the business of slagging off other companies, or other people's work, so if that's what you wish to do, I'd seriously suggest you look for another forum - don't do it here.

Ashley

trainlord · Post by **trainlord** » Sun Sep 02, 2007 4:31 pm

lol but thear a team they can take the fall together but when a single person does it by them selve thats good

i like the power cables on critch the keep to the ponitgraph