BATS

lateagain · Post by **lateagain** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 5:32 pm

Matt and Michael,

Thanks for clarify the issues. I do appreciate there must be some difficulties to resolve and hope that these can be amicably sorted to EVERYone's benefit.

In the long term I hope that the creative effort is not lost and that those who contributed to commercial add-ons can resolve their issues.

The recent release of Cambrian2 had me digging through the BATS library and it was indeed a vivid reminder of just how much the team at BA and all the reskinners had contributed to our hobby.

As Michael mentions, hopefully the lessons of the past have been learned and therefore full consideration can be given to a solution in the fullness of time.

Geoff

ashgray · Post by **ashgray** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 5:41 pm

The NBL Loco's and the 40's will be coming to UKTS on completion since Like the EH2 pack these were not handed over to BATS for release yet.

EH2 will be the full pack minus the sounds (freeware alias will be provided) and the class 89 since this will be updated as planned originally by Update for those that have the pack and on CD for those that haven't, purely so the ACLG still recieve their revenue for it.

If anyone wants to donate any money then please forward it to the ACLG, they do have paypal and it would go toward maintaining the very loco's featured in the pack.

Tim C

That's wonderful news Tim - I've been particularly looking forward to the NBL pack ever since you first announced it as the locos are favourites of mine. Great idea to donate to the ACLG, which I'll be doing.

Ashley

mickoo737 · Post by **mickoo737** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 5:48 pm

I've just resurrected my old Warship, some of which were built by NBL l believe ?, Tim did the textures and between us we think its a viable entitiy, so that will be coming around soon....once l have re-learnt Gmax LOL

Best

Michael

mjt222 · Post by **mjt222** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 6:15 pm

Less chat then Michael and morning learning

andytwosheds · Post by **andytwosheds** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 6:43 pm

From BATS Beginners Forum

Further to my email regarding non delivery, I have today received the following email from PayPAl "Due to illness and not being able to manage BATS sales,in part the drug regime I am on made me unable to mangage things,therefore I have refunded you. I am very sorry indeed that you have been inconvienianced so.
Kind Regards
Mike "

I trust that Mike will soon return tobetter health. Thanks to everyone for their input and advice.
Regards

Andy

mickoo737 · Post by **mickoo737** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 6:56 pm

Andy, thank you for taking the time to impart that information and thank you for your concern for Mikes health. It is a concern and is central to the current issues and we all wish him well.

l will let the relevant parties know of your refund and we will cross you off the list of MIA

.

Best

Michael

jbilton · Post by **jbilton** » Fri Aug 31, 2007 7:00 am

Hi
I too would also like to add my best wishes for Mike's health.
Whether BATs produce any further addons or not, they produced the SVR which set the standard for others to follow.
Cheers
Jon

NiallGray · Post by **NiallGray** » Fri Aug 31, 2007 1:42 pm

Having worked on the EH2 pack, it's a shame what happened has indeed happened, but I support Tim's intentions all the way.

The downside to the freeware pack is that the current freeware sounds are not a patch on the Bats ones. I can see a lot of people aliasing the locos to either the sounds from EH1 pack or the 86s on Great Eastern.

As the author of the activities for the EH2 pack it's down to me at the end of the day if they are uploaded or not. As this stage I am not sure what I want to do and am only posting this to stop more people asking me about it.

mickoo737 · Post by **mickoo737** » Fri Aug 31, 2007 5:12 pm

Niall,

What ever you decide l'm sure will be accepted by everyone, l would hate to see anyone pressured into doing something they may well later regret whilst this is all panning out.

Kindest

Michael

BobLatimer · Post by **BobLatimer** » Fri Aug 31, 2007 10:40 pm

Some of you will not know who I am. I’ve been the lead beta tester for BATS for a while now but have not been a very visible member of the team.

At least one member of both the UKTS and BATS forums has noticed that I have been even more quiet than usual during the recent events. I want to make sure that this is not being interpreted as a lack of support for the actions being taken by Tim, Kim, Michael and Martin. I have been involved in some of the very difficult (and sometimes soul destroying) discussions over the last couple of weeks and want to publicly state that the decisions being made by “the remaining members of Blue Arrow TS” have my 100% agreement and support.

This is a very difficult time for everybody and especially for those intimately involved. Please give them a bit of room to do what needs to be done. I’m sure when the situation has stabilised (in whatever state) an official announcement will be made.

Regards,

Bob Latimer.

dkightley · Post by **dkightley** » Fri Aug 31, 2007 10:45 pm

Thanks for making your position clear, Bob.

And I'm sure everyone will give yourself, Tim, Kim, Michael and Martin chance to sort things out....and give an end result that is best for you all...and for the community as a whole.

Doug

johndibben · Post by **johndibben** » Sat Sep 01, 2007 11:18 am

Nobody appears to be pushing for anything and it's mainly a discussion between BA members.

Never had any dealings with Mike but hope he is not seriously ill?

Only one question.

What is EH2?

John

chrisiveson · Post by **chrisiveson** » Sat Sep 01, 2007 1:19 pm

johndibben wrote: What is EH2?

John

"Electric Heritage 2"
http://forums.uktrainsim.com/viewtopic. ... 91b392daa1
http://forums.uktrainsim.com/viewtopic. ... 91b392daa1

johndibben · Post by **johndibben** » Sat Sep 01, 2007 5:54 pm

Ah, thanks

Thought it was a route as there was talk of activities and couldn't get past East Ham

John

stephenholmes · Post by **stephenholmes** » Sat Sep 01, 2007 7:34 pm

Hi everyone
I have just read this news about BATS and I feel saddened to say the least.
I agree wholeheartedly with Jon Biltons statement about SVR setting the standard for others to follow.
I hope that everything settles down and I wish everyone at BATS and on this forum well.
Kind regards Stephen.