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Post by NeutronIC »

Wow, on my 10Mb/s connection i'm getting just 60KB/s - can anyone else confirm the same problem before I go raise hell with EV1 - or should I be raising hell with NTL (my ISP)?

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Post by NeutronIC »

Looking at the servers current bandwidth utilisation, it ain't idle, it's doing about 2.5mb/s outbound - which would suggest it's me with the problem...

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NeutronIC wrote:Jon / Ian,

Can you give me your current IP addresses? (if you don't know, then do a tracert to http://www.uktrainsim.com and I'll get it from there) - these need to be your *public* addresses, if you're behind a router you might well have a 192.168 address which will be no use).

I will run traces via the host control panel and see if it's just that they are being routed via a bad route.

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Tracing route to http://www.uktrainsim.com [209.85.59.35]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 3 ms <1 ms <1 ms 62.56.68.238
2 35 ms 33 ms 33 ms anchor-hg-1-l100.router.demon.net [194.159.161.3
2]
3 34 ms 34 ms 31 ms anchor-access-4-v156.router.demon.net [194.159.1
61.193]
4 33 ms 34 ms 32 ms anchor-inside-3-g5-0-2.router.demon.net [194.159
.161.90]
5 32 ms 32 ms 34 ms tele-border-1-g1-0-0.router.demon.net [194.70.98
.174]
6 34 ms 35 ms 33 ms ldn-b1-geth11-1-15.telia.net [213.248.100.161]
7 35 ms 34 ms 36 ms verio-112851-ldn-b3.telia.net [213.248.100.50]
8 34 ms 36 ms 48 ms xe-0-2-0.r22.londen03.uk.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250
.2.65]
9 103 ms 104 ms 103 ms p64-1-0-0.r21.nycmny01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.25
0.2.38]
10 101 ms 102 ms 103 ms ae-0.r20.nycmny01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.2.2
5]
11 118 ms 117 ms 118 ms p64-2-0-0.r21.asbnva01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.25
0.2.181]
12 141 ms 142 ms 142 ms p64-1-1-0.r20.dllstx09.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.25
0.5.24]
13 171 ms 147 ms 147 ms p64-1-0-0.r20.hstntx01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.25
0.4.71]
14 344 ms 214 ms 209 ms xe-4-1.r03.hstntx01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.2
.229]
15 * 256 ms 255 ms ge-9.ev1.hstntx01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.11.
134]
16 256 ms 257 ms 255 ms gphou2-209-85-1-29.ev1.net [209.85.1.29]
17 257 ms 255 ms 256 ms gphou2-209-85-1-108.ev1.net [209.85.1.108]
18 * 255 ms 256 ms ev1s-209-85-59-35.ev1servers.net [209.85.59.35]


Trace complete.

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Post by NeutronIC »

Still slow downloads?

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Post by jbilton »

NeutronIC wrote:Still slow downloads?

Matt.
About 41kb/s for the xtracks file

about 500kb/s for the same file from Bernards site.

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Post by NeutronIC »

I've just provided all your traceroutes to the host, plus i've run backtraces from the servers to your machines and provided those too - looks to me like it's choosing a bizarre route to get data back to you and there are big delays on it.

I'm only getting a max of about 130k/s now if i'm lucky.

I'll keep you all updated.

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Post by dkightley »

Just downloaded the xtracks file @ 350kb/s.

And the forum's not been that slow for me tonight.

And a tracert maxes out at 129ms to get to UKTS.
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Post by NeutronIC »

Need an IP and a tracert pls doug - positive stories might help them identify the problem :)

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C:\Documents and Settings\My Account>tracert http://www.uktrainsim.com

Tracing route to http://www.uktrainsim.com [209.85.59.35]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.2.1
2 11 ms 11 ms 9 ms 10.139.196.1
3 11 ms 11 ms 8 ms nott-t2cam2-b-v627.inet.ntl.com [82.13.48.245]
4 11 ms 11 ms 16 ms nott-t3core-1b-ge-117-0.inet.ntl.com [195.182.17
5.149]
5 11 ms 12 ms 11 ms nth-bb-b-so-020-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.174.173]

6 11 ms 49 ms 11 ms nth-bb-a-so-400-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.172.193]

7 27 ms 37 ms 15 ms 193.251.251.161
8 14 ms 15 ms 15 ms gi2-0-0.loncr3.london.opentransit.net [193.251.2
42.21]
9 15 ms 17 ms 33 ms p16-2-0-2.r22.londen03.uk.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.25
0.8.49]
10 102 ms 84 ms 83 ms p64-1-0-0.r21.nycmny01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.25
0.2.38]
11 82 ms 83 ms 100 ms ae-0.r20.nycmny01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.2.2
5]
12 * 100 ms * p64-2-0-0.r21.asbnva01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.25
0.2.181]
13 123 ms 122 ms 121 ms p64-1-1-0.r20.dllstx09.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.25
0.5.24]
14 128 ms 127 ms 127 ms p64-1-0-0.r20.hstntx01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.25
0.4.71]
15 143 ms 127 ms 127 ms xe-4-1.r03.hstntx01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.2
.229]
16 128 ms 127 ms 127 ms ge-9.ev1.hstntx01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.11.
134]
17 128 ms 129 ms 145 ms gphou2-209-85-1-28.ev1.net [209.85.1.28]
18 129 ms 127 ms 130 ms gphou2-209-85-1-108.ev1.net [209.85.1.108]
19 129 ms 127 ms 129 ms ev1s-209-85-59-35.ev1servers.net [209.85.59.35]


Trace complete.

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Post by NeutronIC »

Ok there is apparently a problem with one of the backbones (cogent) - they have engineers onsite and are hoping for a resolution some time in the wee hours.

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Post by Lad491 »

Forums seem fine this morning so far (07:50) with pretty rapid page switching again now. I did a download of Dorset Coast Pt1 as a test and got 463KB/s which is about what i'd expect for my 4mb link.

So .... looks ok at this end now :)
Tracing route to http://www.uktrainsim.com [209.85.59.35]

over a maximum of 30 hops:



1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.0.1

2 6 ms 5 ms 9 ms 10.91.224.1

3 9 ms 8 ms 13 ms brtn-t2cam1-a-ge-wan34-107.inet.ntl.com [80.3.66.33]

4 7 ms 17 ms 7 ms brtn-t2core-a-ge-wan61.inet.ntl.com [195.182.174.25]

5 7 ms 8 ms 14 ms gfd-bb-a-so-700-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.188.233]

6 8 ms 9 ms 11 ms gfd-bb-b-ge-000-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.172.6]

7 9 ms 9 ms 13 ms sl-gw11-lon-11-0.sprintlink.net [213.206.156.101]

8 9 ms 12 ms 9 ms sl-bb21-lon-11-0.sprintlink.net [213.206.128.58]

9 9 ms 9 ms 11 ms sl-bb22-lon-3-0.sprintlink.net [213.206.129.153]

10 9 ms 9 ms 9 ms 213.206.131.86

11 9 ms 9 ms 12 ms xe-0-2-0.r22.londen03.uk.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.2.65]

12 78 ms 78 ms 77 ms p64-1-0-0.r21.nycmny01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.2.38]

13 77 ms 78 ms 80 ms ae-0.r20.nycmny01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.2.25]

14 95 ms 94 ms * p64-2-0-0.r21.asbnva01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.2.181]

15 124 ms 126 ms 124 ms p64-1-1-0.r20.dllstx09.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.5.24]

16 144 ms 131 ms 132 ms p64-1-0-0.r20.hstntx01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.4.71]

17 130 ms 132 ms 131 ms xe-4-1.r03.hstntx01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.2.229]

18 130 ms 130 ms 130 ms ge-9.ev1.hstntx01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.11.134]

19 124 ms 123 ms 129 ms gphou2-209-85-1-29.ev1.net [209.85.1.29]

20 125 ms 124 ms 124 ms gphou2-209-85-1-108.ev1.net [209.85.1.108]

21 124 ms 126 ms 123 ms ev1s-209-85-59-35.ev1servers.net [209.85.59.35]



Trace complete.
The tracert looks better now too :)
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Post by dorlan »

Appears to be back to 'normal' now!

Tracing route to http://www.uktrainsim.com [209.85.59.35]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 * * * Request timed out.
2 18 ms 17 ms 18 ms l1.ar02.gs1.dsl.pipex.net [62.241.161.244]
3 17 ms 17 ms 17 ms ge-0-1-0-0.cr01.gs1.dsl.pipex.net [62.241.161.10
6]
4 18 ms 19 ms 17 ms GigabitEthernet4-0.GW4.LND2.ALTER.NET [146.188.5
3.221]
5 18 ms 17 ms 17 ms so-0-0-0.xr2.lnd2.alter.net [158.43.233.118]
6 19 ms 16 ms 18 ms so-1-1-0.TR1.LND2.ALTER.NET [146.188.7.230]
7 100 ms 101 ms 101 ms so-6-0-0.IR2.DCA4.ALTER.NET [146.188.8.173]
8 101 ms 99 ms 99 ms 0.so-0-0-0.IL2.DCA6.ALTER.NET [146.188.13.41]
9 101 ms 101 ms 101 ms 0.so-7-0-0.XL2.DCA5.ALTER.NET [152.63.42.189]
10 103 ms 101 ms 101 ms 0.so-7-0-0.BR1.DCA5.ALTER.NET [152.63.43.177]
11 102 ms 104 ms 102 ms p16-0-1-3.r20.asbnva01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.25
0.9.69]
12 98 ms 99 ms 99 ms ae-0.r21.asbnva01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.2.1
7]
13 135 ms 133 ms 133 ms p64-1-1-0.r20.dllstx09.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.25
0.5.24]
14 142 ms 144 ms 142 ms p64-1-0-0.r20.hstntx01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.25
0.4.71]
15 142 ms 141 ms 144 ms xe-4-1.r03.hstntx01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.2
.229]
16 126 ms 128 ms 129 ms ge-9.ev1.hstntx01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.11.
134]
17 128 ms 126 ms 128 ms gphou2-209-85-1-29.ev1.net [209.85.1.29]
18 128 ms 128 ms 128 ms gphou2-209-85-1-108.ev1.net [209.85.1.108]
19 128 ms 128 ms 126 ms ev1s-209-85-59-35.ev1servers.net [209.85.59.35]


Trace complete.

On 81.178.80.174

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Post by jbilton »

Hi
I'm only getting about 50kb/s

Mind you I'm only getting 150kb/s from Europe so my line has slowed ATTM.

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Post by dorlan »

Down to 20-30KB/s :(

Tracing route to http://www.uktrainsim.com [209.85.59.35]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 * * * Request timed out.
2 17 ms 19 ms 17 ms l1.ar02.gs1.dsl.pipex.net [62.241.161.244]
3 19 ms 17 ms 17 ms ge-0-1-0-0.cr01.gs1.dsl.pipex.net [62.241.161.10
4 16 ms 17 ms 15 ms GigabitEthernet4-0.GW4.LND2.ALTER.NET [146.188.5
5 17 ms 17 ms 17 ms so-0-0-0.xr2.lnd2.alter.net [158.43.233.118]
6 19 ms 17 ms 17 ms so-1-1-0.TR1.LND2.ALTER.NET [146.188.7.230]
7 100 ms 99 ms 101 ms so-6-0-0.IR2.DCA4.ALTER.NET [146.188.8.173]
8 99 ms 99 ms 99 ms 0.so-0-0-0.IL2.DCA6.ALTER.NET [146.188.13.41]
9 100 ms 101 ms 101 ms 0.so-7-0-0.XL2.DCA5.ALTER.NET [152.63.42.189]
10 102 ms 101 ms 101 ms 0.so-7-0-0.BR1.DCA5.ALTER.NET [152.63.43.177]
11 103 ms 101 ms 103 ms p16-0-1-3.r20.asbnva01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.25
12 99 ms 97 ms 99 ms ae-0.r21.asbnva01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.2.1
13 134 ms 133 ms 133 ms p64-1-1-0.r20.dllstx09.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.25
14 141 ms 141 ms 144 ms p64-1-0-0.r20.hstntx01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.25
15 141 ms * 141 ms xe-4-1.r03.hstntx01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.2
16 146 ms 143 ms 143 ms ge-9.ev1.hstntx01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.11.
17 143 ms 145 ms 143 ms gphou2-209-85-1-29.ev1.net [209.85.1.29]
18 144 ms 143 ms 143 ms gphou2-209-85-1-108.ev1.net [209.85.1.108]
19 144 ms 145 ms 143 ms ev1s-209-85-59-35.ev1servers.net [209.85.59.35]

Trace complete.

from 81.178.80.174
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Post by Easilyconfused »

Just downloaded Xtracks 3.18 at full line speed for my Telewest 4MB line.

Tracing route to http://www.uktrainsim.com [209.85.59.35] over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 82-32-41-209.cable.ubr06.azte.blueyonder.co.uk [82.32.41.209]
2 11 ms 10 ms 9 ms 10.10.64.1
3 12 ms 19 ms 11 ms 62.30.64.35
4 17 ms 21 ms 16 ms 195.188.230.42
5 16 ms 19 ms 18 ms 194.117.136.233
6 15 ms 15 ms 13 ms 194.117.136.146
7 83 ms 83 ms 81 ms fast0-0.iix-igr01.nycl.twtelecom.net [198.32.160.35]
8 81 ms 81 ms 82 ms core-01-so-1-0-0-0.nycl.twtelecom.net [66.192.240.197]
9 132 ms 130 ms 139 ms dist-02-so-1-0-0-0.hsto.twtelecom.net [66.192.242.19]
10 127 ms 127 ms 142 ms hagg-03-ge-1-0-0-538.hsto.twtelecom.net [66.192.246.210]
11 132 ms 128 ms 130 ms 64-129-54-2.static.twtelecom.net [64.129.54.2]
12 132 ms 131 ms 132 ms gphou2-209-85-1-28.ev1.net [209.85.1.28]
13 132 ms 136 ms 132 ms gphou2-209-85-1-108.ev1.net [209.85.1.108]
14 134 ms 135 ms 142 ms ev1s-209-85-59-35.ev1servers.net [209.85.59.35]

Trace complete.
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