Carrick Island - new project

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The CDR railcars havn't escaped my attention either but turntables are required for best effect or you have to have turntables everywhere.

The lack of 'imaginary' layouts and stock is surprising as when railway modelling really took off in the 60's, there were many of them, particularly narrow gauge.

Perhaps its because as much work has to go into both whereas with model railway, it was an excuse to use 'left over' bits and pieces.

It still has the advantage of nobody being able to compare it with the original :wink: :lol:
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Some screens of the terraformed island prior to the navvies taking up residence.


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Above is Flushing Bay, looking north. Flushing is on the south coast and is the largest town on the island and the headquarters of the islands second railway company. If you imagine the island to be a clock face, Flushing is at 5:00pm. The town will be to the right, the southern coast line running west to Penryn (at the south west corner of the island) will run around the head of the bay from right to left.


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Above are two views of the main river, the Mylor River which has it's source in the centre of the island and drains east, reaching the coast at Mylor Churchtown which is at 3:00pm on our maginary clock face plan of the island. One view is looking east towards the sea, the second view is looking west up the estuary towards the centre of the island. Mylor is Carrick Island's second town and the headquarters of the first railway company founded on the island and located just out of view behind the camera. It's here that I have started track laying. See below.


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Above is Greatwood, the headland that forms the northern promontory of the Mylor estuary and the piece of land you can just see in the top of the picture below that shows the track laid on Mylor Quay. This view is looking north of west. Track will run all along this coast, part way up that slope...


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Restronguet, site of a mining town where iron ore is mined and smelted into pig iron to be sent down the line for procesing at the Pyracymon Tinplate Works at Trelew (west of Mylor on the south bank of the Mylor River) or for export at Mylor Quay. Restronguet is north of GreatWood. Looking north west this is at about 2:00pm on our clock face. I'll post up a basic map of the island soon!


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The cliffs of Helwyn and Carclew, about 100m high. Looking west along the rugged north coast of the island. According to my marker file there is a railway going to be built half way up that cliff somewhere! The line serving the northern shore settlements is going to be the quietest backwater of the route. A bit like an extreme version of the Ventnor West branch along the undercliff on the Isle of Wight. About noon on the clock face here.


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Treluswell Bay in the far north west of the island 10:00pm on our clock face. Apart from Perran Wharf a few miles north, Treluswell is the only settlement of note on this section of the coast. On the right hand side of the bay in this picture will be the terminus of the north coast line. Treluswell has a number of industries which alone make this length of line renumerative, the other income is from the fish trains from Perran Wharf. Passenger recipts are less important on this part of the route.


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Above are two pictures of tracklaying in progress. Mylor Quay is the upper image and is inspired by the Madder Valley Railway, Wantage Road Tramway, Bridgewater Docks (a la Dave Rowe) and Weymouth Docks. If all goes to plan there will be some interesting interaction between the trains and the car spawners hereabouts, the railway becoming a tramroad as it climbs from the quay up through the town streets to the station (the line going off the bottom of the picture which is a 1 in 60 gradient).
The second picture shows the raw track layout of Mylor Churchtown station. The small 3-road goods yard is lower left. Upper left is the bay platform with it's loco release road (which doubles as the yard headshunt). The two main platforms are upper centre and are both served by a centre loco release road in the style of Douglas IoM. The line curving away top right is the goods-only line descending to the Quay which you can just make out in the distance upper right. There needs to be a lot of earth-movng done here to accomodate the town... Apart from Douglas I had Cowes, IoW in my minds eye while building this station, mainly in the way the station and associated buildings relate to the town around it.

Later I will post up some shots of the track testing train in action at Mylor and along the line to Porloe Works.
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Wow, bumper load of screenie or what, hurry up i cant hold in all of this excitement forever, i cant wait.
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A few shots of track testing in progress. Sorry there is no scenery and won't be for a long time as I am building this route in the correct sequence and will get all the track laid, tested and tdb finally rebuilt before I do any scenery work.


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Above. Looking up the 1 in 60 Mylor Bank from the Cobh towards the terminus.


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Arriving at Mylor station platform 2. Quay tracks in the distance.


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Doing a run-round clearance check. The two main platforms will take a 7 bogie-coach train with ease, and 9 coaches if a second loco takes the train out.


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Conducting some shunting tests down on the pier. The ground will be reworked considerably here to make this either a stone or wooden jetty, haven't decided which yet.


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A rather humourous sequence of shots taken while testing the run-round capacity of the bay platform. The train is 6 bogie coaches and a bogie guards van. Clearances are tighter than I think is wise for normal operating practice so I have limited this platform to six bogie coaches.
1) Loco draws forward into the 20m headshunt. This is a tight fit. Double Fairlies will be banned from using the bay headshunt in normal conditions.
2) Easing back around the train. "Mind me paint!"
3) The other end of the run round loop. That funny smell is the guard bricking himself. Note the speed - extreme care was taken here and I must hand it to Kevin for some exceptionally fine bounding boxes...
4) A top down view of the above shot. "Passengers must not lean out of the windows".


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Travelling away from Mylor terminus west towards Porloe. Shot taken beyond the bottom of Mylor Bank. The above length of line is two single tracks side by side, not double track, hence the scissors Xovers both here and at the terminus. This should encourage activity writers to write some 'race 'em' style activities. This length of the line is known as The Cobh and will run along a sea wall. In the distance are the main loco works for this part of the route, and carriage sheds. Guess what real line inspired this scene. This is an old shot, the earth has since all been dug away on the right of the line here leaving a sheer drop to the river, in readiness for the stone masons to build the retaining embankments.


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Running a loco around Porloe Works to test the track, although in this picture the Fairlie is on one of the running lines. On the right is the coaling road. You can just see the pointwork of the connecting loop to the running line in the bottom of the shot. Right background are the two workshop roads, then a 4-road engine shed and left of that the storage and cripple road. The whole lot fanning off a loop beside the running line in a layout following L&B practice at Pilton Road Works. To the left of the two running lines is the loop line serving the carriage shed, the three roads of which are partly obscured by the smoke from the engine. Where the loco and carriage lops rejoin the running lines (above the far chimney of the engine) you can just make out the start of the stiff 1 in 50 climb to the next station, Trelew, which will be a junction where the two tracks go their separate ways as two single lines to serve different parts of the island.

No dynamic track has been used on the route so far.

I have written a history of the line if anyone wants a copy.
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Post by GavinW »

Looking good.

And I thought that we had clearance problems at Old Oak Common with the new 5 car units shunting round the yard.

Best not put the coaches in for a repaint :o
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I'd like to read the history of the line please, just send it to me at jc.steel@talk21.com

Thanks for even more Eye Candy, i am surprised they havnt exploded
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Coming along .... Kev's stuff looks good .... loads of track 8)

Mine's only little :-?

Still that's my problem :wink: :lol:
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Captain Bazza's NZ wooden jetties are rather nice - and you wouldn't need to scale them up, either...
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That history of the line is great, and you get a few maps too.
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Hi Martin

Could you please send me the history of the line, the pic look brilliant, cant wait.

e-mail ian_morricom@btopenworld.com


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After Porloe, on the approach to the next station, Trelew, things get a little complicated. This station is a junction and I anticipate it will be a busy litle place with 4 platform faces set out as two islands. Trains still need to arrive from and depart to either single line and at the far end of the platforms the two lines diverge to the south and north sides of the island so there is some quite complex pointwork to enable maximum sharing of the station faces (signalling it should be fun). The above was built tonight with XTracks 3.3 and is a scissors crossover interlaced with a double slip, on a falling 1 in 50 gradient. No dynamic track. All the ends of these modular kit track constructions are perpendicular and maintain the MSTS way across 2, 3 or 4 tracks so they are incredibly flexible. It's interesting that Okrasa Ghia has taken the same format as Tim Booth with his finescale and 'dropped' dynamic track in favour of more specific modular pieces to maintain the correct geometry. I have only begun to dip into the full potential of XTracks in the last few days and I'm amazed that I ever survived without it.


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And finally a rough sketch map, not to scale, so you can find your way around my demented babblings.
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Coo .... that's big :P
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Need input from you blokes who are knowledgeable about NG engineering. I've just put down a first test bridge using the default S&C Smardale Viaduct. I'm not terribly happy with the texturing on these Kuju models but the main reason for posting is:

1) Does this look like NG engineering to you? Are you convinced? Or does it shout out "I'm just a mainline viaduct half the normal size"?
2) Please comment on the clearances for the tracks under it, which will be a set of quayside sidings.


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Narrow gauge by the very nature of its construction normally means the minimum of overbidges and viaducts. They were built on the cheap.

The TR's bridges and the L&B's viaducts were the exception rather than the rule.

The beauty of fictitious NG is that you can have anything 8)
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I think what John has said is basically true. Most NG was built on the cheap and heavy engineering was not the order of the day.

But there are examples of large scale engineering like the L&B viaduct and also some of the stone embankments on the Ffest Rly are quite large (over 60ft high in one place).

As John says though since it is fictitious and as long as it looks right then that's all that matters.

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