A virtual resident and her posh cousin at Llanfair C

jefran · Post by **jefran** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 8:28 pm

The Dholpur 2-8-4T is finished and will be uploaded in a couple of weeks when I have finished these 2

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Still 2'-6" but less obscure. I am not sure if they have ever really met, but they are very close family

Frsimplex1993 · Post by **Frsimplex1993** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 9:12 pm

JOAN!

BruceB · Post by **BruceB** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 10:32 pm

Frsimplex1993 wrote:JOAN!

Indeed - any chance of a blue one?

Bruce

sparky123456 · Post by **sparky123456** » Fri Sep 23, 2005 2:46 pm

Yeh, a blue one would be great!

Chris

RobertM · Post by **RobertM** » Fri Sep 23, 2005 5:34 pm

Nice, I can't wait too take them over the WLLR

RobertM

Frsimplex1993 · Post by **Frsimplex1993** » Fri Sep 23, 2005 6:14 pm

I'll do a 'Thomas' reskin if you'd like.

jefran · Post by **jefran** » Fri Sep 23, 2005 6:44 pm

Thanks, Joan it is - I have to say that I think that the red option looks best, but if FRSimplex will do a blue one - that's great. The real problem with Joan is knowing which bit of detail does with which - chimney, feed pumps etc. My model is generally as a drawing by Geoff Thorne, but I haven't put the pump on the front right, and have 2 injectors. We need a WLLR expert.

So who is the posh cousin then?

JonPotter · Post by **JonPotter** » Fri Sep 23, 2005 7:00 pm

Superior for the Whipsnade Line? If it is, they met in 1993 at the WLLR.

jefran · Post by **jefran** » Fri Sep 23, 2005 7:12 pm

Superior, though it wasn't a snooty thing, she was just bigger than the Brazils that Lloyds has used before. The red livery at Whipsnade looks great, but I'm going for the Bowater era - I might even put some oil cans on.

Were both locos in steam on the W&LLR?

JonPotter · Post by **JonPotter** » Fri Sep 23, 2005 7:26 pm

Joan wasn't at that point - the gala only used Nos. 10, 2, 14 (SLLR 85) and diesel No. 18, plus of course 'Superior'. 'Superior' was double heading with 'Countess' throughout the event.

mccormackpj · Post by **mccormackpj** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 11:25 am

Joan is now in the workshop being prepared for the lengthy work involved in returning her to service. The plans are to restore her to 'colonial' appearance, with feed pumps, balloon stack and open cab back. There's a lot of work involved, including a full boiler retube. She was out of service before I became a volunteer, but I understand that she had her own 'character', one point being that she is more demanding of drivers with a larger-than-average waistline as her internal valve gear and the low tanks require considerable suppleness! Personally I am not sure about the prospect of firing the last train on an October half-term: battling up the almost continuous grades from the Banwy Bridge to Golfa so exposed to the rain and wind. I think I will order an extra jacket!

Photos of Joan under restoration available on request ..

Patrick

jefran · Post by **jefran** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 7:32 pm

A progress report on Superior - seen here with some ebryonic Bowater bogies flats, rather nearer home, in Kent

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Some more pictures of Joan would be most helpful Patrick

JonPotter · Post by **JonPotter** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 10:08 am

Nice!

Earl1 · Post by **Earl1** » Tue Oct 18, 2005 5:46 pm

Anyone who wants a Blue Joan needs their head seein too, It looks horrid In Blue and the sooner it is back in marroon the better.

mccormackpj · Post by **mccormackpj** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 7:54 am

Well, that depends on what shade of blue, I think. Certainly the wishy-washy Thomas blue lacks presence or quality and like most blues is apt to fade to an unpleasant paleness - remember all that BR stock? But blue can be distinguished and elegant: just think of the GER, which had one of the most Edwardian of liveries (and, I have to admit, one of my all-time favourites). And as for NG locos, you don't have to go far from Joan to see how it can be quite splendid, just consider the W&L's Hunslet No.15/85. Wholly unprototypical, but what a sight! Perhaps it wouldn't suit Joan as well as it does the Hunslet as she is a bit more industrial whereas the Hunslet's symmetry and proportions, with the footplate over the front bogie and straight chimney, carry the colour nicely.

I have to admit I am biased in favour of the Hunslet as she is a treat to fire and rides like a Rolls compared to the Beyers. But that elegant front-end and large smokebox are a right pain when you have to ash out at the end of the day!

Anyway, this is all a personal choice. Some even say that the SR livery was quite pleasant ..

Patrick