B&SR

robert159 · Post by **robert159** » Fri Oct 31, 2003 11:58 pm

do keep me updated.

robert159 · Post by **robert159** » Sat Nov 01, 2003 2:05 pm

any info regarding quarry's would be appreciated. pls send 2
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ive started work on the line already. i have extended hillery hill farm and started the gallery view. (with the intention that it be an old open cast mining area.) any other sugestions just say.

dderek · Post by **dderek** » Sat Nov 01, 2003 7:01 pm

This is a realy a enjoyable route
Not too long or complex
Thank you

pitleyfalley · Post by **pitleyfalley** » Sun Nov 02, 2003 1:06 pm

My plan centers around Route Editor, thinking of something along the lines (no pun intended) of Dinorwic or Penrhyn, something of that scale maybe, not only with a quarry but also the branch lines associated with it.... At the moment though I have to do studies so it wont really start until the new year when ive done my resits. :s

Chris

Rfairlie · Post by **Rfairlie** » Sun Nov 02, 2003 7:06 pm

Why don't you try something in the style of the Penrhyn railway with the quarry and a line to the port.

Tim

robert159 · Post by **robert159** » Tue Nov 04, 2003 9:00 pm

im not quite sure what the ubove 2 have 2 do with the B&SR but i am pleasd 2 say that the railway is moving along nicely. there are also one or 2 reskins in the wroks at the mo.also if someone would tell me how 2 put up screan shots i will.

andrewgadd · Post by **andrewgadd** » Tue Nov 04, 2003 9:11 pm

Robert.
If you go to the screenshots forum the first thread tells you how to go about it!

smudge5609 · Post by **smudge5609** » Tue Nov 04, 2003 9:31 pm

pitleyfalley wrote:My plan centers around Route Editor, thinking of something along the lines (no pun intended) of Dinorwic or Penrhyn, something of that scale maybe, not only with a quarry but also the branch lines associated with it.... At the moment though I have to do studies so it wont really start until the new year when ive done my resits. :s

Chris

Hi,

I have DEMs for the Penrhyn Quarry Railway, so if you want them, let me know. It will save you building all the mountains and quarries! You'll have to build the route in truescale though if you do use them

Cheers, Chris

pitleyfalley · Post by **pitleyfalley** » Tue Nov 04, 2003 10:18 pm

Heya Chris,

Ideally I would like to make the route in x2 scale, this would not only tie it in with the Ffes + Talyllyn but would also allow the use of all the stock currently avaliable without having to resize it all.

Also after Southwold, im fed up of not having Dynamic track to play with. I have posted in the TSTools forum, asking if there is anyway of say doubling the DEM data points to make the world twice as big though. If so then I would of course love to use them... thankyou for your kind offer.

Christian

andrewgadd · Post by **andrewgadd** » Wed Nov 05, 2003 12:53 am

Chaps.

I would go as far as to say that, with the very restricted selection of Truescale track sections available at this present moment in time, building any industrial NG railway with tight curves would be impossible. (Current Truescale sections really only lend themselves to railways like the TR and we already have that!)
I would have to agree with Christian that a x2 route would be the only solution, however a Quarry or other Industrial railway in NG would by a new and fascinating subject for MSTS.

smudge5609 · Post by **smudge5609** » Wed Nov 05, 2003 9:11 am

No problem.

It would be interesting to know if you can double DEMs.

Cheers, Chris

sillyevan27 · Post by **sillyevan27** » Wed Nov 05, 2003 5:43 pm

The Penrhyn Coaches are uploaded

...just wanted to say that

...*waits for David to make the reskins*...

Hmm...maybe I should download that route then?

robert159 · Post by **robert159** » Thu Nov 06, 2003 12:25 pm

it has been sugested that i make up an imaginary history for the B&SR. the following is only a first draft but i would like 2 know what u lot think of it.

---( the Baxter & Sons. railway company Ltd.)---
version _____ 1.6.4

Credits
Original / Main Author (and owner)_____---(Robert Baxter)---
Additional editors ______ Michael Baxter

This is a fictional line with a made up but rich history.

HISTORY

--(the quarry)--

when the quarry first started life it was like the name says a quarry. There were no trains only donkeys and men. By the time the trains rolled in the open cast mining was winding down as the miners headed underground for the richer veins of slate. The open cast parts are still producing a limited amount of slate and are still in use (just.) but the mines have taken over as the main producer of slate for the company.

---(construction)---
The line was originally built to serve the Baxter & Sons Quarry (B&SQ) and was called the Baxter & Sons Railway (B&SR). Previously the Quarry had used donkeys to carry the slate to the docks for trans-shipment. This accounts for the awful gradients and reversing system forced upon the line for exiting the main quarry. This has meant that most of the engines that otherwise could have been used, being rejected.

When the line was laid past Gran canyon town there was no way of creating a siding for parking the truckâ€™s. Ever since this section has had a habit of causing delays and problems on busy days.

---(after math)---
Most of the work force for the line and surrounding industries came from a few villages and a towns. However the biggest towns were cut off from the line when a series of circumstances forced the B&SR to close off half of the line. What with a land slide, bridge collapse, tunnel structural problems along that section of the line. Then to top it all off a bank man came and took away all there spare track and money reserves. This left the line with no choice but to close off the western section.

Ever since, the companies along the line have been suffering from a lack of staff. Because of this, the B&SR is under constant pressure to reopen their western branch so that more workers could be brought in. (They were even given money to help them do so.) Work has now begun near the docks to reopen the old tunnel. And to rebuild the ruined track beyond.

--(facts)--

Roberts explosive factory acquired a diesel in order to shunt there trucks around. B&SR extended there track around the factory in exchange for use of this engine whenever the need arose. However they mostly use there vertically mounted boiler engine for shunting purposes and as an emergency replacement.

The B&SR train John was constructed from the spare parts of the first engine called Robert. Who is used for passenger trains. Where as John is used for shunting trucks. Because of this the 2 engines are maintained to very different levels of decay. This is apparent just by looking at the two engines.

This line is owned by the Baxter & Sons Quarry Company (B&SQ) and has been badly neglected. Many things have just been left to rot, rust or fall apart due to lack of funds. Despite this the line is still carrying goods and passengers. It forms the backbone of the local industrial community.

Due to the cheap and overused nature of the track, very low speed limits have been imposed on this scenic narrow gauge line. Certain speed limits however have been imposed for quite a different reason. Lets face it you don't want youâ€™re only working engine to fall into a river now do you.

dderek · Post by **dderek** » Fri Nov 07, 2003 9:26 pm

Xsirlent can we have a map too?

robert159 · Post by **robert159** » Tue Nov 11, 2003 4:10 pm

here are some screen shots of the line in its updated form (the unreleaced version)

be warned i dont know how long there going 2 stay visible

****no longer avalable****